Replace Front Brake on TJ
04-16-2005, 06:28 PM
#81
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
GA did pass the time by typing:
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
04-16-2005, 06:28 PM
#82
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
GA did pass the time by typing:
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
04-16-2005, 06:28 PM
#83
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
GA did pass the time by typing:
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
04-16-2005, 07:14 PM
#84
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
If I had told you, your rear brakes needed service, I would have
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
04-16-2005, 07:14 PM
#85
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Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
If I had told you, your rear brakes needed service, I would have
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
04-16-2005, 07:14 PM
#86
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
If I had told you, your rear brakes needed service, I would have
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
04-16-2005, 07:14 PM
#87
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
If I had told you, your rear brakes needed service, I would have
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
meant new shoes and cups. Picture:
http://----------.com/dana35c/woodp_030208j_d4.jpg Exploded view:
http://www.----------.com/brakeShoes.jpg The tricks I use with drum
brakes, is to remove the wheels and slide them under the frame for a
little extra protection in case I jar it off it's blocks. Usually the
drums stick a little to the hub, I squirt the lugs and center with with
WD-40 and hit it with a hammer at the drum's edge like you were going
push it back on and make it ring like a bell, usually it pops loose,
back at you. Rather than the twenty years I did blowing the asbestos off
with air, I've found that a blast with the garden hose does a much
better job of containing the dust and cleaning the parts you'll use
again, then disassemble. As you disassemble place the parts on the tire
rim you have lying beside you so as they are in the same position as
they look on the backing plate, will help immensely with the different
color coded springs on reassemble. If you heard a metal to metal sound
before you started work on the brakes, or the drum won't slide off, then
you may have to poke a small screwdriver through the backing plate to
push the ratchet lever back and release the star, and another to back it
off before the drum will come off:
http://www.----------.com/brakeAdjuster.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
GA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
>
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
>
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
>
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Thanks again!
> Joe.
04-17-2005, 08:56 AM
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Ooops! I forgot to mention it... I do have rear drum brakes.
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
04-17-2005, 08:56 AM
#89
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Ooops! I forgot to mention it... I do have rear drum brakes.
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
04-17-2005, 08:56 AM
#90
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Ooops! I forgot to mention it... I do have rear drum brakes.
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
Joe.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Qjg8e.14453$L64.6290@okepread07...
> GA did pass the time by typing:
> > Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did
get
> > the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> > (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the
instructions
> > given by you guys.
>
> The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
> money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny
tools...
>
> > I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> > I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what
the
> > Canadian winter does to them...
>
> Anyplace in the salt belt.
>
> > When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's
side)
> > are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on
them) I
> > guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I
didn't
> > think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm
that
> > heavy :)...
>
> Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
>
> > Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> > inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> > calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside
pad
> > on the passenger side.
>
> That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some
grooves or
> rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can
see
> the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on
the
> new ones.
>
> > Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> > done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> > replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page
that
> > tells me how to service/replace them?
>
> Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
>
> Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
> is the emergency brake shoe.
>
> Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
> that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
> a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
