Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
without a track bar could be interesting.

Old Crow wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:40:57 -0400, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>>>>That's what I call it, anyway.
>>>>Spdloader
>>>
>>>The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
>>>is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
>>>mentioned.
>>>
>>>The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
>>>this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>
>>That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
>>unhook it, at all.
>>
>>Spdloader
>>
>
> On a coil spring vehicle, I'll buy this. On a leaf spring vehicle I
> don't. Take a look at various pickups and even older passenger cars.
> Leaf springs in the rear and no "track bar".
> Both our Jeeps are approaching the 250k mile mark and neither one of
> them have any handling problems. My '95 actually had the track bar on
> it when I bought it. I took it off when it broke and started to
> rattle against the bottom of the body. Never saw a difference in
> handling and I was driving 135 miles a day back then.
> Several months later I bought my wife's '94 and while crawling around
> underneath noticed that her's was already gone. Couldn't tell by the
> way it drove, then or now.
> --
> Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '95 YJ Rio Grande
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>
>

Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
>making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
>off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
>tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
>adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
>without a track bar could be interesting.


You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
on either Jeep.
My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
matter)and not a track bar to be found.
I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
>making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
>off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
>tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
>adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
>without a track bar could be interesting.


You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
on either Jeep.
My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
matter)and not a track bar to be found.
I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
>making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
>off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
>tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
>adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
>without a track bar could be interesting.


You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
on either Jeep.
My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
matter)and not a track bar to be found.
I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:

>On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
>making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
>off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
>tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
>adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
>without a track bar could be interesting.


You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
on either Jeep.
My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
matter)and not a track bar to be found.
I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Apr 24, 4:34 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
> >On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
> >making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
> >off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
> >tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
> >adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
> >without a track bar could be interesting.
>
> You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
> I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
> for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
> bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
> to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
> on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
> measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
> on either Jeep.
> My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
> matter)and not a track bar to be found.
> I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
> --
> Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '95 YJ Rio Grande
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

It probably has to do with how worn the bushings are. But this is
something that needs to be maintained anyway.

Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Apr 24, 4:34 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
> >On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
> >making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
> >off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
> >tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
> >adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
> >without a track bar could be interesting.
>
> You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
> I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
> for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
> bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
> to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
> on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
> measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
> on either Jeep.
> My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
> matter)and not a track bar to be found.
> I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
> --
> Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '95 YJ Rio Grande
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

It probably has to do with how worn the bushings are. But this is
something that needs to be maintained anyway.

Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Apr 24, 4:34 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
> >On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
> >making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
> >off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
> >tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
> >adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
> >without a track bar could be interesting.
>
> You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
> I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
> for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
> bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
> to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
> on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
> measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
> on either Jeep.
> My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
> matter)and not a track bar to be found.
> I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
> --
> Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '95 YJ Rio Grande
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

It probably has to do with how worn the bushings are. But this is
something that needs to be maintained anyway.

Re: removing the rear track bar
 

On Apr 24, 4:34 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:16 GMT, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
> >On my YJ with no track bar, the axle will shift over an inch or so just
> >making the hard turn into my up hill driveway. I fixed it before I went
> >off road again, suspect I would have had serious rub problems with 31"
> >tires. Accident avoidance on the highway would depend a lot on tire
> >adhesion and road conditions. I'd imagine that sliding into a curb
> >without a track bar could be interesting.
>
> You guys got me thinking so I decided to check this out.
> I've got a fairly steep bank behind my shop where they graded the pad
> for the building. This past weekend I put both Jeeps sideways on this
> bank and looked for any sign that the rear axle was shifting from side
> to side. Measured tire sidewall distance from the outside of the body
> on both the uphill and downhill sides, then turned the jeep around and
> measured again. NO appreciable difference in any of the measurements
> on either Jeep.
> My '61 Ford F-100 has leafs in the rear(and the front for that
> matter)and not a track bar to be found.
> I'm officially gonna quit worrying about it.
> --
> Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '95 YJ Rio Grande
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

It probably has to do with how worn the bushings are. But this is
something that needs to be maintained anyway.