removing the rear track bar
04-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
Spdloader wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
04-20-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
>>
>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>> Spdloader
>
> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
> mentioned.
>
> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>
> Mike
That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
unhook it, at all.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
>>
>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>> Spdloader
>
> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
> mentioned.
>
> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>
> Mike
That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
unhook it, at all.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
>>
>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>> Spdloader
>
> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
> mentioned.
>
> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>
> Mike
That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
unhook it, at all.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
>>
>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>> Spdloader
>
> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
> mentioned.
>
> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>
> Mike
That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
unhook it, at all.
Spdloader
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
RoyJ wrote:
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
RoyJ wrote:
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
RoyJ wrote:
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
RoyJ wrote:
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
> On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
> there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
> roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
> the woods.
>
> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
Thanks man that clears up a lot
04-21-2007, 04:46 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:40:57 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>>> Spdloader
>>
>> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
>> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
>> mentioned.
>>
>> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
>> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>>
>> Mike
>
>That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
>unhook it, at all.
>
>Spdloader
>
On a coil spring vehicle, I'll buy this. On a leaf spring vehicle I
don't. Take a look at various pickups and even older passenger cars.
Leaf springs in the rear and no "track bar".
Both our Jeeps are approaching the 250k mile mark and neither one of
them have any handling problems. My '95 actually had the track bar on
it when I bought it. I took it off when it broke and started to
rattle against the bottom of the body. Never saw a difference in
handling and I was driving 135 miles a day back then.
Several months later I bought my wife's '94 and while crawling around
underneath noticed that her's was already gone. Couldn't tell by the
way it drove, then or now.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
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<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
>>> That's what I call it, anyway.
>>> Spdloader
>>
>> The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
>> is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
>> mentioned.
>>
>> The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
>> this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
>>
>> Mike
>
>That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
>unhook it, at all.
>
>Spdloader
>
On a coil spring vehicle, I'll buy this. On a leaf spring vehicle I
don't. Take a look at various pickups and even older passenger cars.
Leaf springs in the rear and no "track bar".
Both our Jeeps are approaching the 250k mile mark and neither one of
them have any handling problems. My '95 actually had the track bar on
it when I bought it. I took it off when it broke and started to
rattle against the bottom of the body. Never saw a difference in
handling and I was driving 135 miles a day back then.
Several months later I bought my wife's '94 and while crawling around
underneath noticed that her's was already gone. Couldn't tell by the
way it drove, then or now.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com