removing the rear track bar
04-20-2007, 10:05 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
04-20-2007, 10:05 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
04-20-2007, 10:05 AM
#13
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Re: removing the rear track bar
On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.
DeerSkull wrote:
> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
> your thoughts ?
04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
>
> It depends on a lot of things....
>
> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>
> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>
> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
> you have a load on.
>
> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>
> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
> especially on 4x4's.
>
> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
That's what I call it, anyway.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
>
> It depends on a lot of things....
>
> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>
> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>
> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
> you have a load on.
>
> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>
> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
> especially on 4x4's.
>
> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
That's what I call it, anyway.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
>
> It depends on a lot of things....
>
> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>
> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>
> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
> you have a load on.
>
> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>
> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
> especially on 4x4's.
>
> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
That's what I call it, anyway.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> DeerSkull wrote:
>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>> your thoughts ?
>
> It depends on a lot of things....
>
> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>
> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>
> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
> you have a load on.
>
> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>
> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
> especially on 4x4's.
>
> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
That's what I call it, anyway.
Spdloader
04-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
Spdloader wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
04-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
Spdloader wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
04-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: removing the rear track bar
Spdloader wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4628c676$0$6377$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> DeerSkull wrote:
>>> removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
>>> your thoughts ?
>> It depends on a lot of things....
>>
>> When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
>> Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
>> tracking in a straight line down the road.
>>
>> When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
>> 'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.
>>
>> It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner if
>> you have a load on.
>>
>> Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
>> anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
>> vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
>> because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.
>>
>> That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I was
>> told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
>> especially on 4x4's.
>>
>> Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
> That's what I call it, anyway.
> Spdloader
>
>
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.
The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.
Mike