CRWLR

Yes, it's welded there. The seat and seat belts can be removed and
reinstalled. The base model doesn't even get a seat, and the owners of these
models have the option of buying a seat and some belts, and installing them
later if he wants.




"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-48D4A4.01000208122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> I've been hauling firewood in my TJ and would like to remove the rear
> seat belts to get them out of the way. Removing the torx bolt is no big
> deal but before I do I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose a blind nut
> under the tub. Anybody know if the nut is welded under the tub? Just
> want to be sure I can reinstall the belts later. Thanks.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

CRWLR

Yes, it's welded there. The seat and seat belts can be removed and
reinstalled. The base model doesn't even get a seat, and the owners of these
models have the option of buying a seat and some belts, and installing them
later if he wants.




"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-48D4A4.01000208122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> I've been hauling firewood in my TJ and would like to remove the rear
> seat belts to get them out of the way. Removing the torx bolt is no big
> deal but before I do I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose a blind nut
> under the tub. Anybody know if the nut is welded under the tub? Just
> want to be sure I can reinstall the belts later. Thanks.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

CRWLR

Yes, it's welded there. The seat and seat belts can be removed and
reinstalled. The base model doesn't even get a seat, and the owners of these
models have the option of buying a seat and some belts, and installing them
later if he wants.




"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-48D4A4.01000208122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> I've been hauling firewood in my TJ and would like to remove the rear
> seat belts to get them out of the way. Removing the torx bolt is no big
> deal but before I do I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose a blind nut
> under the tub. Anybody know if the nut is welded under the tub? Just
> want to be sure I can reinstall the belts later. Thanks.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

Jeff Scherb

one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can take
all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)

"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> of that.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

Jeff Scherb

one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can take
all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)

"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> of that.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

Jeff Scherb

one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can take
all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)

"Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> of that.
>
> Rich M
> 98TJ

CRWLR

"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fSuBb.10$UY6.2@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
> seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can
take
> all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)
>

I am having trouble visualizing the set up, but isn't there a single bolt in
the center that has two buckles on it that get attached to the shoulder
belts? If you attach both ends of a lap belt to the same bolt, the occupant
of that belt can be squeezed, squozen, crushed to death by thier own weight.
I am not sure this is a good plan at all.

And, you don't need to go to JC Whitney, you can get seat belts right down
the street at the auto parts store on the corner.



> "Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
> news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> > Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> > of that.
> >
> > Rich M
> > 98TJ
>
>

CRWLR

"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fSuBb.10$UY6.2@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
> seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can
take
> all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)
>

I am having trouble visualizing the set up, but isn't there a single bolt in
the center that has two buckles on it that get attached to the shoulder
belts? If you attach both ends of a lap belt to the same bolt, the occupant
of that belt can be squeezed, squozen, crushed to death by thier own weight.
I am not sure this is a good plan at all.

And, you don't need to go to JC Whitney, you can get seat belts right down
the street at the auto parts store on the corner.



> "Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
> news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> > Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> > of that.
> >
> > Rich M
> > 98TJ
>
>

CRWLR

"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fSuBb.10$UY6.2@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
> seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can
take
> all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)
>

I am having trouble visualizing the set up, but isn't there a single bolt in
the center that has two buckles on it that get attached to the shoulder
belts? If you attach both ends of a lap belt to the same bolt, the occupant
of that belt can be squeezed, squozen, crushed to death by thier own weight.
I am not sure this is a good plan at all.

And, you don't need to go to JC Whitney, you can get seat belts right down
the street at the auto parts store on the corner.



> "Rich M" <rich@ikillspammers.com> wrote in message
> news:rich-759AB2.10530108122003@r03.iad01.newshosting.com...
> > Thanks guys, good idea about putting a bolt in, I wouldn't have thought
> > of that.
> >
> > Rich M
> > 98TJ
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <vtd9n4qjdf1v79@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:

>news:fSuBb.10$UY6.2@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> one other thing you can do, if you have 3 kids like I do, is ge ta third
>> seat belt from JC Whitney and attach it to the same bolt. Then you can
>take
>> all 3 kids safely in the back seat... :-)
>>
>
>I am having trouble visualizing the set up, but isn't there a single bolt in
>the center that has two buckles on it that get attached to the shoulder
>belts? If you attach both ends of a lap belt to the same bolt, the occupant
>of that belt can be squeezed, squozen, crushed to death by thier own weight.
>I am not sure this is a good plan at all.
>
>And, you don't need to go to JC Whitney, you can get seat belts right down
>the street at the auto parts store on the corner.

A friend of mine removed the rear seat and belts from his TJ permanently, and
he gave me the belts. I removed the buckle from the center position in my TJ
and repositioned it about 1/3 of the tub width from the left side. I installed
the buckle my friend gave me about 1/3 of the tub withd from the right side.
Fashioned a lap belt from one of the extra belts. Reinforced the new buckle
positions under the tub with steel bar. Now I have a 3-place rear seatbelt
setup for my 3 kids where no one gets squished.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html