Re: Remote starters
 

Bummer. I hope it wasn't my local manufacturer:
http://viper.com/security/access/siren.asp That hasn't moved to China,
yet.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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FrankW wrote:
>
> I guess I have to agree
> I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
> it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
> Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
> I went back to the installer and was lucky because
> the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
> The "brain" as they call it failed.
> So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
> to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
> therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
> again. And I do not intent to spend more money
> if the warrenty won't take care of it.
> BUT when it does work, They're great.

Re: Remote starters
 

Bummer. I hope it wasn't my local manufacturer:
http://viper.com/security/access/siren.asp That hasn't moved to China,
yet.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> I guess I have to agree
> I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
> it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
> Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
> I went back to the installer and was lucky because
> the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
> The "brain" as they call it failed.
> So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
> to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
> therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
> again. And I do not intent to spend more money
> if the warrenty won't take care of it.
> BUT when it does work, They're great.

Re: Remote starters
 

find someone that sells the your valet system made by directed electronics and
make sure they solder all connections less fire hazard from loose wires
if you have a skim key system it will cost more to bypass the system and that
also means anyone who stakes out your jeep and see you using the remote start
knows the can steal the jeep once they bust into it

Mat and Suzy wrote:

> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

find someone that sells the your valet system made by directed electronics and
make sure they solder all connections less fire hazard from loose wires
if you have a skim key system it will cost more to bypass the system and that
also means anyone who stakes out your jeep and see you using the remote start
knows the can steal the jeep once they bust into it

Mat and Suzy wrote:

> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

find someone that sells the your valet system made by directed electronics and
make sure they solder all connections less fire hazard from loose wires
if you have a skim key system it will cost more to bypass the system and that
also means anyone who stakes out your jeep and see you using the remote start
knows the can steal the jeep once they bust into it

Mat and Suzy wrote:

> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

buldog remote starts are junk

Clem albright wrote:

> Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
> T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
> I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
> guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.
>
> Clem
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> > I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
> >
> > Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> > "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> > installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> > $170. Ridiculous.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> > is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> > electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> > nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> > instructions, then maybe.
> >
> > Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> > this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

buldog remote starts are junk

Clem albright wrote:

> Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
> T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
> I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
> guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.
>
> Clem
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> > I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
> >
> > Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> > "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> > installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> > $170. Ridiculous.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> > is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> > electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> > nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> > instructions, then maybe.
> >
> > Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> > this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

buldog remote starts are junk

Clem albright wrote:

> Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
> T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
> I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
> guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.
>
> Clem
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> > I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
> >
> > Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> > "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> > installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> > $170. Ridiculous.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> > is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> > electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> > nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> > instructions, then maybe.
> >
> > Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> > this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Mat