the updated calipers do not have the antirattle spring that can be seen thru the
wheel

Billy Ray wrote:

> I was lucky and got an 02 built after the change to Akebono calipers.
>
> If your proposed WJ had warpage problems it has probably been changed to the
> new calipers under Jeeps 36/36 warranty. It is easy enough to check, just
> look through the wheel at them. The Akebono's are closed on the sides, the
> Teves are open.
>
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> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4KgVe.14431$ct5.11511@fed1read04...
> > Marko, I've had two WJs, a '99 and an '02, and with nearly 200K miles
> > total between the two neither ever had a warped rotor. Then again, I
> > always made sure the lug nuts were hand-torqued to 90 ft-lbs so they would
> > be tightened evenly, helping to prevent warped rotors. If you just let
> > the tire jocks use an impact wrench to replace the lug nuts, warped rotors
> > is the likely outcome. No, torque-sticks are not accurate enough.
> >
> > marko wrote:
> >> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>
> >>> The rotor warpage problem was addressed by a TSB
> >>> http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> >>>
> >>> I am happy with my 2002 WJ
> >>
> >>
> >> The TSB did not address warping rotors properly, I have third set of
> >> rotors in my '01 WJ. Now a stillen set in front with TSB Akebono
> >> calipers, hopefully this cures the problem.
> >> Thou running change for rotor/caliper set in 05/02 -> manufactured WJ's
> >> seems to have helped for most (check the above link).
> >>
> >> I would be looking for 02 WJ or newer with V8, and check that it is
> >> serviced according to schedule (for example by the VIN number from DCX
> >> service database). Vehicle hates negleted service on the long run. The V8
> >> comes usually with full-time 4wd transfer case, occasional SUV abuser is
> >> less prone to destroy it than the select-track tcase. In areas where salt
> >> is used during winter, I would take vehicle only with factory or
> >> aftermarket corrosion prevension. For example: Check the body paint
> >> inside the rear wheel well.
> >>
> >> I am happy with my 01 WJ,
> >>
> >> Marko
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
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> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Jerry's right on the money on this one. ALWAYS use a torque wrench to snug
down wheels on disk brake equipped vehicles, particularly if they have alloy
wheels.

When I had the WJ I had all the services done by the dealer, including tire
rotations (the tires were some kind of Goodyear Wrangler GSAs or something,
they sucked big time off road, puncture city if you ran over a bottle cap).
The dealer nitwits always wailed away with their impact wrenches, so I'd
retorque them when I got the thing home. The torque would be all over the
place, and I was surprised to see Jeep had a spec of something like 85 - 110
ft lbs. Anyway, I'd torque them evenly to 95 ft lbs all around.

My current '04 Ford Super Duty gets a tire rotation at the dealer every 5k
miles with its oil change. The Ford dealer's a dope as well, the spec is 150
ft lbs, they never get it even close. I reminded the service manager about
this and he got a little embarrassed.

Oh. the Super Duty came with BFG Rugged Trail 31x16" tires, they have been a
pleasant surprise. They wear very well and are excllent in snow, mud and
even on the trail.


"marko" <nulll@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:T_lVe.9339$_k2.147362@news2.nokia.com...
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>> would be tightened evenly, helping to prevent warped rotors. If you just
>> let the tire jocks use an impact wrench to replace the lug nuts, warped
>> rotors is the likely outcome. No, torque-sticks are not accurate enough.
>
> Right, makes paranoid.. Now, after warranty gone and with Stillens, I have
> a calibrated torque wrench. After any service I check the wheel nut torque
> again after driving out of the garage. Under warranty 'trusted' five star
> service to get it right :-) Jeep service has managed to break one locking
> wheel nut with impact wrench. Winter and summer tire changes I do myself.
>
> For the original post: Check that the vehicle has not been jacked up from
> rear axle differential. On the long run this costs you at least a new set
> of rear axle bearings. The quadra drive (full time 4wd) usually comes with
> dana44 rear axle having aluminium differential covering. And if possible,
> get the vehilce lifted: Check for leeks in transfer case (telltale: Wiped
> clean, shiny as new :-), automatic, axle differentials. Also normal things
> for used vehicle: whether doors, liftgate, hood, lamps and bumbers have
> normal fitting. If not, crashed?
>
> And either 02 or 03 has the 5y/100000mile drivetrain warranty, you get the
> priciest parts under warranty.
>
> Marko

 

Jerry's right on the money on this one. ALWAYS use a torque wrench to snug
down wheels on disk brake equipped vehicles, particularly if they have alloy
wheels.

When I had the WJ I had all the services done by the dealer, including tire
rotations (the tires were some kind of Goodyear Wrangler GSAs or something,
they sucked big time off road, puncture city if you ran over a bottle cap).
The dealer nitwits always wailed away with their impact wrenches, so I'd
retorque them when I got the thing home. The torque would be all over the
place, and I was surprised to see Jeep had a spec of something like 85 - 110
ft lbs. Anyway, I'd torque them evenly to 95 ft lbs all around.

My current '04 Ford Super Duty gets a tire rotation at the dealer every 5k
miles with its oil change. The Ford dealer's a dope as well, the spec is 150
ft lbs, they never get it even close. I reminded the service manager about
this and he got a little embarrassed.

Oh. the Super Duty came with BFG Rugged Trail 31x16" tires, they have been a
pleasant surprise. They wear very well and are excllent in snow, mud and
even on the trail.


"marko" <nulll@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:T_lVe.9339$_k2.147362@news2.nokia.com...
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>> would be tightened evenly, helping to prevent warped rotors. If you just
>> let the tire jocks use an impact wrench to replace the lug nuts, warped
>> rotors is the likely outcome. No, torque-sticks are not accurate enough.
>
> Right, makes paranoid.. Now, after warranty gone and with Stillens, I have
> a calibrated torque wrench. After any service I check the wheel nut torque
> again after driving out of the garage. Under warranty 'trusted' five star
> service to get it right :-) Jeep service has managed to break one locking
> wheel nut with impact wrench. Winter and summer tire changes I do myself.
>
> For the original post: Check that the vehicle has not been jacked up from
> rear axle differential. On the long run this costs you at least a new set
> of rear axle bearings. The quadra drive (full time 4wd) usually comes with
> dana44 rear axle having aluminium differential covering. And if possible,
> get the vehilce lifted: Check for leeks in transfer case (telltale: Wiped
> clean, shiny as new :-), automatic, axle differentials. Also normal things
> for used vehicle: whether doors, liftgate, hood, lamps and bumbers have
> normal fitting. If not, crashed?
>
> And either 02 or 03 has the 5y/100000mile drivetrain warranty, you get the
> priciest parts under warranty.
>
> Marko

 

Jerry's right on the money on this one. ALWAYS use a torque wrench to snug
down wheels on disk brake equipped vehicles, particularly if they have alloy
wheels.

When I had the WJ I had all the services done by the dealer, including tire
rotations (the tires were some kind of Goodyear Wrangler GSAs or something,
they sucked big time off road, puncture city if you ran over a bottle cap).
The dealer nitwits always wailed away with their impact wrenches, so I'd
retorque them when I got the thing home. The torque would be all over the
place, and I was surprised to see Jeep had a spec of something like 85 - 110
ft lbs. Anyway, I'd torque them evenly to 95 ft lbs all around.

My current '04 Ford Super Duty gets a tire rotation at the dealer every 5k
miles with its oil change. The Ford dealer's a dope as well, the spec is 150
ft lbs, they never get it even close. I reminded the service manager about
this and he got a little embarrassed.

Oh. the Super Duty came with BFG Rugged Trail 31x16" tires, they have been a
pleasant surprise. They wear very well and are excllent in snow, mud and
even on the trail.


"marko" <nulll@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:T_lVe.9339$_k2.147362@news2.nokia.com...
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>> would be tightened evenly, helping to prevent warped rotors. If you just
>> let the tire jocks use an impact wrench to replace the lug nuts, warped
>> rotors is the likely outcome. No, torque-sticks are not accurate enough.
>
> Right, makes paranoid.. Now, after warranty gone and with Stillens, I have
> a calibrated torque wrench. After any service I check the wheel nut torque
> again after driving out of the garage. Under warranty 'trusted' five star
> service to get it right :-) Jeep service has managed to break one locking
> wheel nut with impact wrench. Winter and summer tire changes I do myself.
>
> For the original post: Check that the vehicle has not been jacked up from
> rear axle differential. On the long run this costs you at least a new set
> of rear axle bearings. The quadra drive (full time 4wd) usually comes with
> dana44 rear axle having aluminium differential covering. And if possible,
> get the vehilce lifted: Check for leeks in transfer case (telltale: Wiped
> clean, shiny as new :-), automatic, axle differentials. Also normal things
> for used vehicle: whether doors, liftgate, hood, lamps and bumbers have
> normal fitting. If not, crashed?
>
> And either 02 or 03 has the 5y/100000mile drivetrain warranty, you get the
> priciest parts under warranty.
>
> Marko

 

Jerry's right on the money on this one. ALWAYS use a torque wrench to snug
down wheels on disk brake equipped vehicles, particularly if they have alloy
wheels.

When I had the WJ I had all the services done by the dealer, including tire
rotations (the tires were some kind of Goodyear Wrangler GSAs or something,
they sucked big time off road, puncture city if you ran over a bottle cap).
The dealer nitwits always wailed away with their impact wrenches, so I'd
retorque them when I got the thing home. The torque would be all over the
place, and I was surprised to see Jeep had a spec of something like 85 - 110
ft lbs. Anyway, I'd torque them evenly to 95 ft lbs all around.

My current '04 Ford Super Duty gets a tire rotation at the dealer every 5k
miles with its oil change. The Ford dealer's a dope as well, the spec is 150
ft lbs, they never get it even close. I reminded the service manager about
this and he got a little embarrassed.

Oh. the Super Duty came with BFG Rugged Trail 31x16" tires, they have been a
pleasant surprise. They wear very well and are excllent in snow, mud and
even on the trail.


"marko" <nulll@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:T_lVe.9339$_k2.147362@news2.nokia.com...
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>> would be tightened evenly, helping to prevent warped rotors. If you just
>> let the tire jocks use an impact wrench to replace the lug nuts, warped
>> rotors is the likely outcome. No, torque-sticks are not accurate enough.
>
> Right, makes paranoid.. Now, after warranty gone and with Stillens, I have
> a calibrated torque wrench. After any service I check the wheel nut torque
> again after driving out of the garage. Under warranty 'trusted' five star
> service to get it right :-) Jeep service has managed to break one locking
> wheel nut with impact wrench. Winter and summer tire changes I do myself.
>
> For the original post: Check that the vehicle has not been jacked up from
> rear axle differential. On the long run this costs you at least a new set
> of rear axle bearings. The quadra drive (full time 4wd) usually comes with
> dana44 rear axle having aluminium differential covering. And if possible,
> get the vehilce lifted: Check for leeks in transfer case (telltale: Wiped
> clean, shiny as new :-), automatic, axle differentials. Also normal things
> for used vehicle: whether doors, liftgate, hood, lamps and bumbers have
> normal fitting. If not, crashed?
>
> And either 02 or 03 has the 5y/100000mile drivetrain warranty, you get the
> priciest parts under warranty.
>
> Marko

 

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tim bur wrote:
>
> the updated calipers do not have the antirattle spring that can be seen thru the
> wheel

 

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tim bur wrote:
>
> the updated calipers do not have the antirattle spring that can be seen thru the
> wheel

 

http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
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mailto:--------------------

tim bur wrote:
>
> the updated calipers do not have the antirattle spring that can be seen thru the
> wheel

 

http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

tim bur wrote:
>
> the updated calipers do not have the antirattle spring that can be seen thru the
> wheel

 

Thanks Folks, I guess its a crap shoot just like buying any used rig. I
love my XJ but its getting old. For me it's a toss up between the WJ
and 4runner. I'll let you know what happens.