billy ray

The Commander will conquer any terrain that a vehicle of its size can.

It can easily and comfortably handle a roadtrip to Kansas in the winter and
a forest road in the summer. However it is not a short wheelbase lifted and
locked rock hopper.

You may try inquiring in the 'New Jeeps Forum" at:
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...play.php?f=184



"jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149868704.581198.176930@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the advice. I love the way the new Commander looks, nice
> and roomy inside, but can take anything I put in its path along the
> way. A trip to the mountains on trails, or up to Kansas in the middle
> of winter. Dallas is pretty flat so I am looking for a quite ride
> (which this is, and a rugged reliable vehicle I can dress up or dress
> down!!@!
>
> Noneyabusiness wrote:
>> On 8 Jun 2006 17:41:38 -0700, "jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>> >a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>> >something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>> >Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>> >testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>> >claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>> > Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>> >like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>>
>> I picked up my 95 Cherokee last october with just under 300,000 miles
>> on it. :-o
>>
>> So far, knock on wood, its been running OK.
>>
>> I don't know how much of the Commander is new technology, but if it's
>> inherited anything from its predecessors, it should live a long life!
>>
>> One thing to consider: Which one has the better 4WD system??
>> (You *ARE* looking at a JEEP for it's 4WD capabilities, RIGHT?!?)
>> ;-)
>>
>> ...
>

billy ray

The Commander will conquer any terrain that a vehicle of its size can.

It can easily and comfortably handle a roadtrip to Kansas in the winter and
a forest road in the summer. However it is not a short wheelbase lifted and
locked rock hopper.

You may try inquiring in the 'New Jeeps Forum" at:
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...play.php?f=184



"jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149868704.581198.176930@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the advice. I love the way the new Commander looks, nice
> and roomy inside, but can take anything I put in its path along the
> way. A trip to the mountains on trails, or up to Kansas in the middle
> of winter. Dallas is pretty flat so I am looking for a quite ride
> (which this is, and a rugged reliable vehicle I can dress up or dress
> down!!@!
>
> Noneyabusiness wrote:
>> On 8 Jun 2006 17:41:38 -0700, "jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>> >a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>> >something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>> >Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>> >testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>> >claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>> > Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>> >like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>>
>> I picked up my 95 Cherokee last october with just under 300,000 miles
>> on it. :-o
>>
>> So far, knock on wood, its been running OK.
>>
>> I don't know how much of the Commander is new technology, but if it's
>> inherited anything from its predecessors, it should live a long life!
>>
>> One thing to consider: Which one has the better 4WD system??
>> (You *ARE* looking at a JEEP for it's 4WD capabilities, RIGHT?!?)
>> ;-)
>>
>> ...
>

billy ray

Jhendo,

I've never owned a car that Consumer Reports thought was 'reliable' but I
don't have the problems I hear other people complain about and I think it is
primarily related to how I care for my vehicles.

If you follow the "Severe Service" portion of the maintenance schedule you
will incur small expenditures on a regular basis but avoid costly breakdowns
and out of service inconveniences.

Using high quality components adds dependability also. I am a firm believer
in 'semi-synthetic' or 'full synthetic' fluids wherever possible due to
their inherently superior properties.

Are these 'synthetics' a requirement for longevity? NO, if you change all
your fluids exactly on schedule and there and a number of Jeepers here that
have never used anything besides dino juice in their 300k vehicles but then
they will be the first to tell you that they change at 3k without fail.
They will also tell you that they either do most of their own wrenching or
rely on a trusted local "mechanic" and rely on a small number of local
'professional shops' for the specialized stuff.

If you ignore stuff till it breaks you pretty much deserve what you get.

(see definitions:)
http://jeep.cnmns.net/index.php/Main_Page



"jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149868546.374315.144800@c74g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Jeff,
>
> Thank for the words. It helps when you hear these type of testimonies.
> I think it as mostly how hard you drive a car and how often you do
> standard maintenance. Even a buddy of mine's 'godly' 4Runner blew an
> engine at 60 and had the transmission replaced at 100. But, he drives
> like a jackrabbit!
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Well... I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 six. Up until about 275,000
>> miles I put in one water pump and one alternator, no other problems, at
>> 275,000 the throwout bearing started squealing so it was replaced along
>> with the clutch (which otherwise was working perfectly).
>>
>> At about 300,000 one of the rod bearings started raising a fuss so I got
>> a remanufactured engine put in, along with a new water pump and starter,
>> and I have every intention of driving it another 300,000 miles.
>>
>> Best car I've ever had... your mileage may vary!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> jhendo wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>> > a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>> > something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>> > Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>> > testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>> > claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>> > Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>> > like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>
>

billy ray

Jhendo,

I've never owned a car that Consumer Reports thought was 'reliable' but I
don't have the problems I hear other people complain about and I think it is
primarily related to how I care for my vehicles.

If you follow the "Severe Service" portion of the maintenance schedule you
will incur small expenditures on a regular basis but avoid costly breakdowns
and out of service inconveniences.

Using high quality components adds dependability also. I am a firm believer
in 'semi-synthetic' or 'full synthetic' fluids wherever possible due to
their inherently superior properties.

Are these 'synthetics' a requirement for longevity? NO, if you change all
your fluids exactly on schedule and there and a number of Jeepers here that
have never used anything besides dino juice in their 300k vehicles but then
they will be the first to tell you that they change at 3k without fail.
They will also tell you that they either do most of their own wrenching or
rely on a trusted local "mechanic" and rely on a small number of local
'professional shops' for the specialized stuff.

If you ignore stuff till it breaks you pretty much deserve what you get.

(see definitions:)
http://jeep.cnmns.net/index.php/Main_Page



"jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149868546.374315.144800@c74g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Jeff,
>
> Thank for the words. It helps when you hear these type of testimonies.
> I think it as mostly how hard you drive a car and how often you do
> standard maintenance. Even a buddy of mine's 'godly' 4Runner blew an
> engine at 60 and had the transmission replaced at 100. But, he drives
> like a jackrabbit!
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Well... I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 six. Up until about 275,000
>> miles I put in one water pump and one alternator, no other problems, at
>> 275,000 the throwout bearing started squealing so it was replaced along
>> with the clutch (which otherwise was working perfectly).
>>
>> At about 300,000 one of the rod bearings started raising a fuss so I got
>> a remanufactured engine put in, along with a new water pump and starter,
>> and I have every intention of driving it another 300,000 miles.
>>
>> Best car I've ever had... your mileage may vary!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> jhendo wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>> > a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>> > something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>> > Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>> > testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>> > claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>> > Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>> > like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>
>

billy ray

Jhendo,

I've never owned a car that Consumer Reports thought was 'reliable' but I
don't have the problems I hear other people complain about and I think it is
primarily related to how I care for my vehicles.

If you follow the "Severe Service" portion of the maintenance schedule you
will incur small expenditures on a regular basis but avoid costly breakdowns
and out of service inconveniences.

Using high quality components adds dependability also. I am a firm believer
in 'semi-synthetic' or 'full synthetic' fluids wherever possible due to
their inherently superior properties.

Are these 'synthetics' a requirement for longevity? NO, if you change all
your fluids exactly on schedule and there and a number of Jeepers here that
have never used anything besides dino juice in their 300k vehicles but then
they will be the first to tell you that they change at 3k without fail.
They will also tell you that they either do most of their own wrenching or
rely on a trusted local "mechanic" and rely on a small number of local
'professional shops' for the specialized stuff.

If you ignore stuff till it breaks you pretty much deserve what you get.

(see definitions:)
http://jeep.cnmns.net/index.php/Main_Page



"jhendo" <jhendo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149868546.374315.144800@c74g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Jeff,
>
> Thank for the words. It helps when you hear these type of testimonies.
> I think it as mostly how hard you drive a car and how often you do
> standard maintenance. Even a buddy of mine's 'godly' 4Runner blew an
> engine at 60 and had the transmission replaced at 100. But, he drives
> like a jackrabbit!
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Well... I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 six. Up until about 275,000
>> miles I put in one water pump and one alternator, no other problems, at
>> 275,000 the throwout bearing started squealing so it was replaced along
>> with the clutch (which otherwise was working perfectly).
>>
>> At about 300,000 one of the rod bearings started raising a fuss so I got
>> a remanufactured engine put in, along with a new water pump and starter,
>> and I have every intention of driving it another 300,000 miles.
>>
>> Best car I've ever had... your mileage may vary!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> jhendo wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>> > a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>> > something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>> > Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>> > testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>> > claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>> > Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>> > like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>
>

twaldron

I thought the Armada more closely compares to the Commander...at any
rate, I'd go with the Pathfinder. Since neither vehicle you mentioned is
designed for serious offroading, I'm assuming it's use is primarily for
street. Personally, I buy Jeeps because they are Jeeps and for their
offroad prowess in SOME models, not necessarily for reliability. That
said, the Jeep straight 6 has a history of longevity. Tales of 300k+ are
common.

I've owned these similar vehicles for credibility reference:

95 XJ Cherokee
01 XJ Cherokee
89 Pathfinder
93 Pathfinder

....and these simply brand specific:

85 CJ7
86 CJ7
90 YJ Wrangler
99 TJ Wrangler Sahara
03 TJ Rubicon
03 Nissan Frontier S/C CC 4x4
04 Nissan Titan SE CC 4x4
06 Nissan Frontier Nismo CC 4x4

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

jhendo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
> a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
> something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
> Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
> testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
> claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
> Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
> like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>
> Thanks!
>

twaldron

I thought the Armada more closely compares to the Commander...at any
rate, I'd go with the Pathfinder. Since neither vehicle you mentioned is
designed for serious offroading, I'm assuming it's use is primarily for
street. Personally, I buy Jeeps because they are Jeeps and for their
offroad prowess in SOME models, not necessarily for reliability. That
said, the Jeep straight 6 has a history of longevity. Tales of 300k+ are
common.

I've owned these similar vehicles for credibility reference:

95 XJ Cherokee
01 XJ Cherokee
89 Pathfinder
93 Pathfinder

....and these simply brand specific:

85 CJ7
86 CJ7
90 YJ Wrangler
99 TJ Wrangler Sahara
03 TJ Rubicon
03 Nissan Frontier S/C CC 4x4
04 Nissan Titan SE CC 4x4
06 Nissan Frontier Nismo CC 4x4

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

jhendo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
> a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
> something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
> Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
> testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
> claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
> Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
> like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>
> Thanks!
>

twaldron

I thought the Armada more closely compares to the Commander...at any
rate, I'd go with the Pathfinder. Since neither vehicle you mentioned is
designed for serious offroading, I'm assuming it's use is primarily for
street. Personally, I buy Jeeps because they are Jeeps and for their
offroad prowess in SOME models, not necessarily for reliability. That
said, the Jeep straight 6 has a history of longevity. Tales of 300k+ are
common.

I've owned these similar vehicles for credibility reference:

95 XJ Cherokee
01 XJ Cherokee
89 Pathfinder
93 Pathfinder

....and these simply brand specific:

85 CJ7
86 CJ7
90 YJ Wrangler
99 TJ Wrangler Sahara
03 TJ Rubicon
03 Nissan Frontier S/C CC 4x4
04 Nissan Titan SE CC 4x4
06 Nissan Frontier Nismo CC 4x4

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

jhendo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
> a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
> something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
> Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
> testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
> claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
> Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
> like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>
> Thanks!
>

Jeff DeWitt

jhendo,

I haven't abused the Jeep much, but I haven't babied it either... bet
I'm one of the few people who know the 4.0 has a rev limiter!

Change the oil regularly and when you start noticing something change or
odd noises deal with them right away instead of waiting until something
really breaks.

I used Penzoil 10-40 and Fram filters. You will hear people say
negitive things about both but I can't complain.

Jeff DeWitt

jhendo wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> Thank for the words. It helps when you hear these type of testimonies.
> I think it as mostly how hard you drive a car and how often you do
> standard maintenance. Even a buddy of mine's 'godly' 4Runner blew an
> engine at 60 and had the transmission replaced at 100. But, he drives
> like a jackrabbit!
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Well... I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 six. Up until about 275,000
>>miles I put in one water pump and one alternator, no other problems, at
>>275,000 the throwout bearing started squealing so it was replaced along
>>with the clutch (which otherwise was working perfectly).
>>
>>At about 300,000 one of the rod bearings started raising a fuss so I got
>>a remanufactured engine put in, along with a new water pump and starter,
>>and I have every intention of driving it another 300,000 miles.
>>
>>Best car I've ever had... your mileage may vary!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>jhendo wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>>>a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>>>something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>>>Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>>>testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>>>claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>>> Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>>>like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>
>

Jeff DeWitt

jhendo,

I haven't abused the Jeep much, but I haven't babied it either... bet
I'm one of the few people who know the 4.0 has a rev limiter!

Change the oil regularly and when you start noticing something change or
odd noises deal with them right away instead of waiting until something
really breaks.

I used Penzoil 10-40 and Fram filters. You will hear people say
negitive things about both but I can't complain.

Jeff DeWitt

jhendo wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> Thank for the words. It helps when you hear these type of testimonies.
> I think it as mostly how hard you drive a car and how often you do
> standard maintenance. Even a buddy of mine's 'godly' 4Runner blew an
> engine at 60 and had the transmission replaced at 100. But, he drives
> like a jackrabbit!
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Well... I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 six. Up until about 275,000
>>miles I put in one water pump and one alternator, no other problems, at
>>275,000 the throwout bearing started squealing so it was replaced along
>>with the clutch (which otherwise was working perfectly).
>>
>>At about 300,000 one of the rod bearings started raising a fuss so I got
>>a remanufactured engine put in, along with a new water pump and starter,
>>and I have every intention of driving it another 300,000 miles.
>>
>>Best car I've ever had... your mileage may vary!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>jhendo wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>First time to this group, so thank you for your time and help. I have
>>>a 97 Pathfinder with 190K on it. No problems, but time to get
>>>something new. I am considering the Commander versus getting another
>>>Pathfinder. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more
>>>testimonials on long life of the Jeep product? All the high mileage
>>>claims always end up on the Japanese side...never hear much about Jeep.
>>> Net, if I am going to spend $35K, I plan on driving it to the ground
>>>like my Pathfinder, and not wondering when the nickel/diming begins.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>
>