Reliability
03-01-2004, 03:49 PM
#21
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Re: Reliability
The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
----
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>passenger footwell ...
in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
----
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>passenger footwell ...
03-01-2004, 03:49 PM
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
----
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>passenger footwell ...
in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
----
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>passenger footwell ...
03-01-2004, 04:15 PM
#23
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Re: Reliability
I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-01-2004, 04:15 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-01-2004, 04:15 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
can of worms they are ship without fluids.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> reliability and cost of repair.
>
> "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92, and
> 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty Direct
> said. "
>
> Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal failure
> ??
> Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of parts
> in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read this
> and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-01-2004, 07:28 PM
#26
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Re: Reliability
I don't think the problem is so much that these things happen, but rather
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-01-2004, 07:28 PM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
I don't think the problem is so much that these things happen, but rather
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-01-2004, 07:28 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
I don't think the problem is so much that these things happen, but rather
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the dealer charges so much to fix them...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4043A7D9.6C6D5575@***.net...
> I believe all export Jeeps are Dana 44s. At the risk of opening a
> can of worms they are ship without fluids.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Warranty Direct, an insurance co, has just released an analysis of
> > reliability and cost of repair.
> >
> > "Jeep was the worst performer, with an average repair bill of £587.92,
and
> > 41 claims per 100 insurance policies held. Jeeps were afflicted by air
> > conditioning failures and rear suspension and axle problems, Warranty
Direct
> > said. "
> >
> > Hmm, could that just be the rear pinion seal failure and axle seal
failure
> > ??
> > Jeeps are not really offroaded here, so I would imaging the offroading
> > damage would be negligible. The dealership labour charges and cost of
parts
> > in the UK are also much higher than in the US. Hopefully DC will read
this
> > and understand why Jeeps aren't popular here !
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
03-02-2004, 09:13 AM
#29
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Re: Reliability
I had this problem on my '99 TJ two or three years ago and it only happened on
extremely humid days. There was no freon leak on mine, just water -- about an
inch or so -- and my wife was getting tired of trying to find a dry place to
put her feet. The work-around fix 'til I got it to the dealer was to pull the
passenger-side floorpan drain plug.
The dealer said it was a known problem and that the drain tube on the
evaporator was too short, allowing condensate to trickle through a seam or
grommet as it dripped down the firewall. He also said that it was sporadic;
i.e., it would leak on some jeeps but not on others. Bad design from the
git-go. The fix was to braze an extension tube onto the drain that led the
condensate to the bottom of the tub. I think they charged me around $35.
Haven't had it happen again since.
Scotty
'99 TJ 4.0L Sahara
---- <LeadWinger> writes:
>The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
>in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
>most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
>warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
>affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
>----
>On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>>passenger footwell ...
extremely humid days. There was no freon leak on mine, just water -- about an
inch or so -- and my wife was getting tired of trying to find a dry place to
put her feet. The work-around fix 'til I got it to the dealer was to pull the
passenger-side floorpan drain plug.
The dealer said it was a known problem and that the drain tube on the
evaporator was too short, allowing condensate to trickle through a seam or
grommet as it dripped down the firewall. He also said that it was sporadic;
i.e., it would leak on some jeeps but not on others. Bad design from the
git-go. The fix was to braze an extension tube onto the drain that led the
condensate to the bottom of the tub. I think they charged me around $35.
Haven't had it happen again since.
Scotty
'99 TJ 4.0L Sahara
---- <LeadWinger> writes:
>The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
>in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
>most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
>warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
>affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
>----
>On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>>passenger footwell ...
03-02-2004, 09:13 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Reliability
I had this problem on my '99 TJ two or three years ago and it only happened on
extremely humid days. There was no freon leak on mine, just water -- about an
inch or so -- and my wife was getting tired of trying to find a dry place to
put her feet. The work-around fix 'til I got it to the dealer was to pull the
passenger-side floorpan drain plug.
The dealer said it was a known problem and that the drain tube on the
evaporator was too short, allowing condensate to trickle through a seam or
grommet as it dripped down the firewall. He also said that it was sporadic;
i.e., it would leak on some jeeps but not on others. Bad design from the
git-go. The fix was to braze an extension tube onto the drain that led the
condensate to the bottom of the tub. I think they charged me around $35.
Haven't had it happen again since.
Scotty
'99 TJ 4.0L Sahara
---- <LeadWinger> writes:
>The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
>in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
>most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
>warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
>affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
>----
>On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>>passenger footwell ...
extremely humid days. There was no freon leak on mine, just water -- about an
inch or so -- and my wife was getting tired of trying to find a dry place to
put her feet. The work-around fix 'til I got it to the dealer was to pull the
passenger-side floorpan drain plug.
The dealer said it was a known problem and that the drain tube on the
evaporator was too short, allowing condensate to trickle through a seam or
grommet as it dripped down the firewall. He also said that it was sporadic;
i.e., it would leak on some jeeps but not on others. Bad design from the
git-go. The fix was to braze an extension tube onto the drain that led the
condensate to the bottom of the tub. I think they charged me around $35.
Haven't had it happen again since.
Scotty
'99 TJ 4.0L Sahara
---- <LeadWinger> writes:
>The A/C failure was poor welding of the evaporator core which resulted
>in freon leaks inside the car, and very expensive repairs. I think
>most were covered by warranty, and Chrysler did give an extended
>warranty on the evaporator around 1994. Several model years were
>affected, beginning with the 1993's. Ours was among them.
>----
>On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:09:42 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I wonder if "air conditioning failure" is the water that drips into the
>>passenger footwell ...