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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-24-2005 03:58 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
still recommended for their differentials
Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
as you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-24-2005 03:58 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
still recommended for their differentials
Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
as you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-24-2005 03:58 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
still recommended for their differentials
Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
as you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.


Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:42 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Thanks for posting that info ... but it's outdated. Chrysler recommended
GL-3 in their earlier jeeps, then switched to GL-5 when that new spec came
out. Afterwards, they learned that the sulfur and sulfite additives in GL-5
lubes are highly corrosive to brass synchro rings, which are found in the AX
5/15 trannies.

Chrysler rescinded the GL-5 recommendation about 8 years ago, and has
switched back to GL-3. Check with your dealer service dept ... they will
verify it.

Does anybody know if Redline MT-90 (synthetic, GL-4) has sulfur or sulfite
additives?

Thanks!!



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43AD0D4B.59C91BCF@cox.net...
> http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Robert Dyke wrote:
> >
> > Ok ... I just found out some bad news, and I wanted some good advice.
> >
> > I've got a '91 XJ, with an AX-15 manual tranny. It has brass synchro

rings.
> > The owner's manual calls for GL-5 gear oil.
> >
> > I just read that was a mistake ... they ran that info for about 2 years,
> > then changed it to GL-3 oil.
> >
> > Turns out, the sulfur and sulfite additives in the GL-5 grade oil eat up

the
> > brass synchros.
> >
> > Anybody else heard that?
> >
> > What about redline MT-90? is that good? Will it do any damage? Thanks

in
> > advance ... any info would be appreciated ... even if it's not directly
> > related ... :-)




Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:42 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Thanks for posting that info ... but it's outdated. Chrysler recommended
GL-3 in their earlier jeeps, then switched to GL-5 when that new spec came
out. Afterwards, they learned that the sulfur and sulfite additives in GL-5
lubes are highly corrosive to brass synchro rings, which are found in the AX
5/15 trannies.

Chrysler rescinded the GL-5 recommendation about 8 years ago, and has
switched back to GL-3. Check with your dealer service dept ... they will
verify it.

Does anybody know if Redline MT-90 (synthetic, GL-4) has sulfur or sulfite
additives?

Thanks!!



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43AD0D4B.59C91BCF@cox.net...
> http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Robert Dyke wrote:
> >
> > Ok ... I just found out some bad news, and I wanted some good advice.
> >
> > I've got a '91 XJ, with an AX-15 manual tranny. It has brass synchro

rings.
> > The owner's manual calls for GL-5 gear oil.
> >
> > I just read that was a mistake ... they ran that info for about 2 years,
> > then changed it to GL-3 oil.
> >
> > Turns out, the sulfur and sulfite additives in the GL-5 grade oil eat up

the
> > brass synchros.
> >
> > Anybody else heard that?
> >
> > What about redline MT-90? is that good? Will it do any damage? Thanks

in
> > advance ... any info would be appreciated ... even if it's not directly
> > related ... :-)




Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:42 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Thanks for posting that info ... but it's outdated. Chrysler recommended
GL-3 in their earlier jeeps, then switched to GL-5 when that new spec came
out. Afterwards, they learned that the sulfur and sulfite additives in GL-5
lubes are highly corrosive to brass synchro rings, which are found in the AX
5/15 trannies.

Chrysler rescinded the GL-5 recommendation about 8 years ago, and has
switched back to GL-3. Check with your dealer service dept ... they will
verify it.

Does anybody know if Redline MT-90 (synthetic, GL-4) has sulfur or sulfite
additives?

Thanks!!



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43AD0D4B.59C91BCF@cox.net...
> http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Robert Dyke wrote:
> >
> > Ok ... I just found out some bad news, and I wanted some good advice.
> >
> > I've got a '91 XJ, with an AX-15 manual tranny. It has brass synchro

rings.
> > The owner's manual calls for GL-5 gear oil.
> >
> > I just read that was a mistake ... they ran that info for about 2 years,
> > then changed it to GL-3 oil.
> >
> > Turns out, the sulfur and sulfite additives in the GL-5 grade oil eat up

the
> > brass synchros.
> >
> > Anybody else heard that?
> >
> > What about redline MT-90? is that good? Will it do any damage? Thanks

in
> > advance ... any info would be appreciated ... even if it's not directly
> > related ... :-)




Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:49 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Pennzoil synchromesh is not a GL-5, nor is the Daimler/chrysler oil. GL-5
is great for differentials, as you said, because they have no soft yellow
metals. GL-3 fluids are better for manual trannies with brass synchros,
because it has so much less sulfur & sulfite additives in it.

Call your dealership service desk, they will verify it. Normal GL-5 dino
oil is quite harmful to the AX 5/15 trannies.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43ADB693.510AF6F3@cox.net...
> Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
> transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
> still recommended for their differentials
> Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
> heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
>

http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
> A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
> as you.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> > recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> > recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> > which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.




Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:49 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Pennzoil synchromesh is not a GL-5, nor is the Daimler/chrysler oil. GL-5
is great for differentials, as you said, because they have no soft yellow
metals. GL-3 fluids are better for manual trannies with brass synchros,
because it has so much less sulfur & sulfite additives in it.

Call your dealership service desk, they will verify it. Normal GL-5 dino
oil is quite harmful to the AX 5/15 trannies.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43ADB693.510AF6F3@cox.net...
> Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
> transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
> still recommended for their differentials
> Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
> heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
>

http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
> A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
> as you.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> > recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> > recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> > which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.




Robert Dyke 12-24-2005 08:49 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
Hi Bill:

Pennzoil synchromesh is not a GL-5, nor is the Daimler/chrysler oil. GL-5
is great for differentials, as you said, because they have no soft yellow
metals. GL-3 fluids are better for manual trannies with brass synchros,
because it has so much less sulfur & sulfite additives in it.

Call your dealership service desk, they will verify it. Normal GL-5 dino
oil is quite harmful to the AX 5/15 trannies.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43ADB693.510AF6F3@cox.net...
> Six years ago Daimler switch to the New Venture 3550 manual
> transmission, using their own oil or equivalent:
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html GL-5 is
> still recommended for their differentials
> Sulfur is a necessary evil of petroleum products, but if you want a
> heavy duty lube choose GL-5 as Mercedes:
>

http://kenoanyag.mol.hu/english/prod...kkei/doc123807
> A light duty lube such as GL-3 would be a good choice for a mall poser,
> as you.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > P.S. Bill's webpage is outdated as it is still showing that GL-5 is
> > recommended for the AX-5/15. Chrysler rescinded that GL-5
> > recommendation probably 5-6 years ago, changing it as you said to GL-3
> > which does not contain the harmful additives present in GL-5.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-24-2005 09:58 PM

Re: RedLine MT-90 oil for manual transmission?
 
http://www.redlineoil.com/pdf/6.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Robert Dyke wrote:
>
> Hi Bill:
>
> Thanks for posting that info ... but it's outdated. Chrysler recommended
> GL-3 in their earlier jeeps, then switched to GL-5 when that new spec came
> out. Afterwards, they learned that the sulfur and sulfite additives in GL-5
> lubes are highly corrosive to brass synchro rings, which are found in the AX
> 5/15 trannies.
>
> Chrysler rescinded the GL-5 recommendation about 8 years ago, and has
> switched back to GL-3. Check with your dealer service dept ... they will
> verify it.
>
> Does anybody know if Redline MT-90 (synthetic, GL-4) has sulfur or sulfite
> additives?
>
> Thanks!!



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