Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Hi Del,
I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you locked up or hurt others. MACKY "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > of how I should think more like you. > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > is the year of manufacture? > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
HEY DUDE,
The question has been what kind of jeep do you have?????????? I think that you finally sort of answered it by saying top and doors off, so it must be EITHER a CJ, YJ, or a TJ. What kind of 4" lift is best depends on IF IT IS A CJ, A YJ, OR A TJ???????? They have different suspensions on them. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:01:03 GMT, "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote: >>Hi Del, >> >>I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. >>I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four >>wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for >>the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift >>Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya >>only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you >>locked up or hurt others. >> >>MACKY >> >>"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message >>news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... >>> In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: >>> > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that >>> > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that >>> > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me >>> > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies >>> > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead >>> > of how I should think more like you. >>> >>> That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting >>> your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you >>> don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do >>> support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think >>> you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. >>> >>> What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this >>> newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best >>> meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide >>> some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what >>> is the year of manufacture? >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ >> |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
HEY DUDE,
The question has been what kind of jeep do you have?????????? I think that you finally sort of answered it by saying top and doors off, so it must be EITHER a CJ, YJ, or a TJ. What kind of 4" lift is best depends on IF IT IS A CJ, A YJ, OR A TJ???????? They have different suspensions on them. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:01:03 GMT, "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote: >>Hi Del, >> >>I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. >>I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four >>wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for >>the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift >>Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya >>only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you >>locked up or hurt others. >> >>MACKY >> >>"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message >>news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... >>> In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: >>> > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that >>> > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that >>> > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me >>> > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies >>> > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead >>> > of how I should think more like you. >>> >>> That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting >>> your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you >>> don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do >>> support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think >>> you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. >>> >>> What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this >>> newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best >>> meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide >>> some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what >>> is the year of manufacture? >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ >> |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
HEY DUDE,
The question has been what kind of jeep do you have?????????? I think that you finally sort of answered it by saying top and doors off, so it must be EITHER a CJ, YJ, or a TJ. What kind of 4" lift is best depends on IF IT IS A CJ, A YJ, OR A TJ???????? They have different suspensions on them. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:01:03 GMT, "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote: >>Hi Del, >> >>I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. >>I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four >>wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for >>the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift >>Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya >>only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you >>locked up or hurt others. >> >>MACKY >> >>"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message >>news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... >>> In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: >>> > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that >>> > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that >>> > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me >>> > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies >>> > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead >>> > of how I should think more like you. >>> >>> That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting >>> your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you >>> don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do >>> support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think >>> you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. >>> >>> What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this >>> newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best >>> meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide >>> some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what >>> is the year of manufacture? >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ >> |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
HEY DUDE,
The question has been what kind of jeep do you have?????????? I think that you finally sort of answered it by saying top and doors off, so it must be EITHER a CJ, YJ, or a TJ. What kind of 4" lift is best depends on IF IT IS A CJ, A YJ, OR A TJ???????? They have different suspensions on them. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:01:03 GMT, "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote: >>Hi Del, >> >>I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. >>I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four >>wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for >>the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift >>Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya >>only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you >>locked up or hurt others. >> >>MACKY >> >>"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message >>news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... >>> In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: >>> > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that >>> > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that >>> > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me >>> > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies >>> > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead >>> > of how I should think more like you. >>> >>> That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting >>> your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you >>> don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do >>> support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think >>> you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. >>> >>> What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this >>> newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best >>> meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide >>> some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what >>> is the year of manufacture? >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ >> |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
So I take it you are going to park it for the winter now?
You won't be happy with a 12.5" wide tire in the snow on the street unless all you want to do is 'look' at it. Wide tires like that are only for show, they have no real function unless you are a rock crawler, then the wide tread gives more grab. On snow, they just get up on top and float. I had 10.5's on my CJ7 and they got dangerous anywhere over 40 mph in 4-6" of snow. I now have 9.5's on and I can easily run at 55-60 mph in the snow so I can at least keep up to the transport trucks now. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Macky wrote: > > Hi Del, > > I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. > I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four > wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for > the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift > Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya > only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you > locked up or hurt others. > > MACKY > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message > news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > > of how I should think more like you. > > > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > > is the year of manufacture? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
So I take it you are going to park it for the winter now?
You won't be happy with a 12.5" wide tire in the snow on the street unless all you want to do is 'look' at it. Wide tires like that are only for show, they have no real function unless you are a rock crawler, then the wide tread gives more grab. On snow, they just get up on top and float. I had 10.5's on my CJ7 and they got dangerous anywhere over 40 mph in 4-6" of snow. I now have 9.5's on and I can easily run at 55-60 mph in the snow so I can at least keep up to the transport trucks now. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Macky wrote: > > Hi Del, > > I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. > I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four > wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for > the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift > Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya > only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you > locked up or hurt others. > > MACKY > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message > news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > > of how I should think more like you. > > > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > > is the year of manufacture? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
So I take it you are going to park it for the winter now?
You won't be happy with a 12.5" wide tire in the snow on the street unless all you want to do is 'look' at it. Wide tires like that are only for show, they have no real function unless you are a rock crawler, then the wide tread gives more grab. On snow, they just get up on top and float. I had 10.5's on my CJ7 and they got dangerous anywhere over 40 mph in 4-6" of snow. I now have 9.5's on and I can easily run at 55-60 mph in the snow so I can at least keep up to the transport trucks now. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Macky wrote: > > Hi Del, > > I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. > I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four > wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for > the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift > Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya > only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you > locked up or hurt others. > > MACKY > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message > news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > > of how I should think more like you. > > > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > > is the year of manufacture? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
So I take it you are going to park it for the winter now?
You won't be happy with a 12.5" wide tire in the snow on the street unless all you want to do is 'look' at it. Wide tires like that are only for show, they have no real function unless you are a rock crawler, then the wide tread gives more grab. On snow, they just get up on top and float. I had 10.5's on my CJ7 and they got dangerous anywhere over 40 mph in 4-6" of snow. I now have 9.5's on and I can easily run at 55-60 mph in the snow so I can at least keep up to the transport trucks now. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Macky wrote: > > Hi Del, > > I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. > I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four > wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for > the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift > Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya > only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you > locked up or hurt others. > > MACKY > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message > news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > > of how I should think more like you. > > > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > > is the year of manufacture? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Mike,
While I realize and agree that the 12.5 width tires do cause greater flotation, they're not as horrible in the snow as you like to make them out to be. Yes, they can cause some extra sliding here and there if you're not careful, but I've done fine with mine. I go at least as fast as the other cars on the road, if not faster, while maintaining complete control. I did get extra siping put in my BFG AT KOs, though. So far, they've done great, even with the 12.5 width. My old ProComp MT tires of the same exact size, however, were a different story...I could keep up speed with most of the other vehicles, but it was definitely a more difficult to keep it from trying to slide on the ice. Granted, I live in Denver, and we don't actually get all that much snow here in the city as a lot of people think we do. We'll only get about 5 or 6 good snowstorms in a season to deal with, and if we're lucky, one blizzard ;-) /Bob Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40894095.D9A28F38@sympatico.ca>... > So I take it you are going to park it for the winter now? > > You won't be happy with a 12.5" wide tire in the snow on the street > unless all you want to do is 'look' at it. > > Wide tires like that are only for show, they have no real function > unless you are a rock crawler, then the wide tread gives more grab. > > On snow, they just get up on top and float. > > I had 10.5's on my CJ7 and they got dangerous anywhere over 40 mph in > 4-6" of snow. > > I now have 9.5's on and I can easily run at 55-60 mph in the snow so I > can at least keep up to the transport trucks now. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Macky wrote: > > > > Hi Del, > > > > I personally think my Jeep is a Great looking, fun vehicle to own and drive. > > I live in snow country and couldn't ask for a better vehicle. Got four > > wheel drive for winter (and a hardtop) take the doors off and top off for > > the summer. It's fun to drive and I love the way it looks. Adding a Lift > > Kit and wheels with 33 x 12.5 tires will make it look even better ..... ya > > only go through once .... get off on whatever you can that won't get you > > locked up or hurt others. > > > > MACKY > > > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message > > news:20040422064949764-0800@enews.newsguy.com... > > > In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote: > > > > With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > > > > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > > > > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > > > > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > > > > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > > > > of how I should think more like you. > > > > > > That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting > > > your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you > > > don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do > > > support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think > > > you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. > > > > > > What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this > > > newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best > > > meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide > > > some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what > > > is the year of manufacture? > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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