Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from
what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? MACKY "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:09Dhc.10902$hR1.7840@fe2.texas.rr.com... > Sorry, > > http://www.teraflx.com > > GK > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:o8Dhc.10898$hR1.4794@fe2.texas.rr.com... > > http://www.terflx.com > > > > GK > > > > "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote in message > > news:zJChc.87612$_g4.18834988@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net... > > > I won't be doing any off-roading. I use my Jeep for highway driving. > > Would > > > like a ride that is not real harsh but I don't want to be top heavy and > > lean > > > out on turns. I'm not concerned about the cost as much as wanting a > > quality > > > kit. I don't want to screw things up with my Steering or alignment. > > > > > > Suggestions appreciated .... MACKY > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Of course the roll factor is increased when you raise the Jeep, but as long as you're not pushing threshold on your turns, you're going to be happy. Tires for that lift should be 33s or less. The taller the tire sidewall, the more 'wallowing' you will feel. I had the Teraflex S4T and was very happy with it. I now have an RE 4.5" and like it as well. You'd do well with either. Remember, you will have driveline vibes to deal with on a SWB Jeep. Macky wrote: > Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from > what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering > afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, > or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? > > MACKY -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Of course the roll factor is increased when you raise the Jeep, but as long as you're not pushing threshold on your turns, you're going to be happy. Tires for that lift should be 33s or less. The taller the tire sidewall, the more 'wallowing' you will feel. I had the Teraflex S4T and was very happy with it. I now have an RE 4.5" and like it as well. You'd do well with either. Remember, you will have driveline vibes to deal with on a SWB Jeep. Macky wrote: > Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from > what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering > afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, > or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? > > MACKY -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Of course the roll factor is increased when you raise the Jeep, but as long as you're not pushing threshold on your turns, you're going to be happy. Tires for that lift should be 33s or less. The taller the tire sidewall, the more 'wallowing' you will feel. I had the Teraflex S4T and was very happy with it. I now have an RE 4.5" and like it as well. You'd do well with either. Remember, you will have driveline vibes to deal with on a SWB Jeep. Macky wrote: > Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from > what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering > afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, > or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? > > MACKY -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Of course the roll factor is increased when you raise the Jeep, but as long as you're not pushing threshold on your turns, you're going to be happy. Tires for that lift should be 33s or less. The taller the tire sidewall, the more 'wallowing' you will feel. I had the Teraflex S4T and was very happy with it. I now have an RE 4.5" and like it as well. You'd do well with either. Remember, you will have driveline vibes to deal with on a SWB Jeep. Macky wrote: > Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from > what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering > afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, > or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? > > MACKY -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote:
> With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > of how I should think more like you. That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what is the year of manufacture? ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote:
> With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > of how I should think more like you. That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what is the year of manufacture? ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote:
> With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > of how I should think more like you. That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what is the year of manufacture? ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
In <P6Mhc.93010$_g4.20605757@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t> Macky wrote:
> With all due respect .... the last time I looked I was the one that > paid for my Jeep and I'm the one that will be paying for anything that > I do to it ..... that being said, I appreciate your desires to mold me > mind into your way of thinking .... but it would be GREAT if replies > were directed to opinions about a lift kit that fits my needs instead > of how I should think more like you. That is quite true and nobody here will try to stop you from lifting your Jeep. On this newsgroup, however, as with usenet in general, you don't get to pick and choose which opinions you will receive. I do support your right to modify your vehicle as you see fit, but also think you are being silly by lifting a Jeep which won't be going off road. What you seem to have missed in my post is the fact that nobody on this newsgroup can as of yet render an opinion as to which lift will best meet your needs. In order for this to happen you must first provide some basic information about your Jeep, like which model is it and what is the year of manufacture? ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Recommendations for a 4" Lift Kit.
Macky,
I really wouldn't worry so much about cornering, etc. Pick good shocks and keep the swaybars connected, and it will likely handle much like stock...or possibly even stiffer on corners (if you go with cheaper stiffer shocks like the ProComp ES3000). I have a 4" lift that began as a ProComp lift and is slowly turning into a mish-mash. I have all teraflex LCAs. They feel alot like the ProComp arms did, but since they are adjustable and flexible, are easier on the mounts and allow me to change the rear pinion angle. Going to a 4" lift, I would seriously consider a long-arm kit from one of the manufacturers (Tera, Rubicon Express, Full Traction, etc.). It will keep a better on-road ride for you by flattening the control arms out more, so more of the impact force from bumps on the road goes up, into the spring, and less can go up into the vertical component of the angle of your control arms. My friend's longarm kit does ride smoother than my short arms. The LA (Long Arm) kits are a bit more pricey in general, but hey, like you said, it's your money. Another thing to consider when going to a 4" lift. You WILL have driveline vibrations caused by the steeper angle of the rear driveshaft. You will need to have a "Slip Yoke Eliminator" (SYE) kit installed on your transfer case, and have a "CV DriveShaft" installed in the rear, with your rear axle pinion then changed to point directly at the transfer case output. If you don't do this, you will wear your rear driveshaft U-Joints out in quick order, and produce annoying vibrations at various speed ranges, especially at the speeds attained in 3rd gear (oddly enough). BTW, yes, some kits do come with transfer case "drop" kits. Unfortunately, even with one of these drops, a 4" lift can and probably will produce vibes (I speak from my own personal experience). They aren't an end-all solution. You may also one day want to re-gear your differentials to something around 4.11:1 for the larger tires (33" I'm guessing, for a 4" lift) you're going to end up running. This can wait though, and won't be quite as urgent since you don't go off-road. But you will notice an annoying lack of power since your transmission's gearing will be too high for your engine in many situations, rendering your 5th gear pretty much useless. If you have the upgraded factory 3.73:1 ratio it won't be as bad, but if you have the crappy 3.07 gears, you'll definitely notice it. As you can see, a lift definitely puts you on a slippery slope of needed other modifications; it's not as quick, cheap, and simple as the lift kit manufacturers like to make it seem. Some kits (such as the Rubicon Express LA kit do include extra items you'll need, such as the SYE kit and CV driveshaft), which can help. You should take that into account when pricing your chosen kit. If you go smaller (2" or so lift and maybe 31" or 32" tires), you can get away with less up-front expenditure, as your driveline angles won't be affected so badly and your tires will be smaller and not detrimentally affect your current differential gearing driveability as much. Good luck in what you choose. Oh, and once you do the mods, take it off-road! I know you don't think you want to now, but you have to try it. It's a blast, and you may find you have a new favorite hobby once you do. /Bob "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote in message news:<Q6Mhc.93012$_g4.20605954@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv .net>... > Thanks GK .... that was one of the ones that was high on my list .... from > what I had read it sounded like it fit my needs. How much is cornering > afftected by putting in a 4" lift? Does it becomes sloppy on lane changes, > or worse yet raise the Center of gravity enough to make it street dangerous? > > MACKY > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:09Dhc.10902$hR1.7840@fe2.texas.rr.com... > > Sorry, > > > > http://www.teraflx.com > > > > GK > > > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:o8Dhc.10898$hR1.4794@fe2.texas.rr.com... > > > http://www.terflx.com > > > > > > GK > > > > > > "Macky" <ZZZdouble5@mybizz.netZZZ> wrote in message > > > news:zJChc.87612$_g4.18834988@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net... > > > > I won't be doing any off-roading. I use my Jeep for highway driving. > Would > > > > like a ride that is not real harsh but I don't want to be top heavy > and > lean > > > > out on turns. I'm not concerned about the cost as much as wanting a > quality > > > > kit. I don't want to screw things up with my Steering or alignment. > > > > > > > > Suggestions appreciated .... MACKY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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