Kate

It prolly quit ratteling because the heat shield finally fell off.

I'm kind fof with you, if it works, don't fix it.

Kate

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded pretty
>sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't replace it.
>
> OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
> passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the computer
> so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection why should
> I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them "fix" the
> computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
> Herb Leong wrote:
>> In article <rqGPg.12794$Qg.6763@southeast.rr.com>,
>> Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> #I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>> #the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>> I had the cat recalled on my '87 YJ in the early 90's. The dealer said
>> the cat was empty when they pulled it off.
>>
>> /herb

Kate

It prolly quit ratteling because the heat shield finally fell off.

I'm kind fof with you, if it works, don't fix it.

Kate

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded pretty
>sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't replace it.
>
> OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
> passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the computer
> so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection why should
> I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them "fix" the
> computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
> Herb Leong wrote:
>> In article <rqGPg.12794$Qg.6763@southeast.rr.com>,
>> Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> #I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>> #the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>> I had the cat recalled on my '87 YJ in the early 90's. The dealer said
>> the cat was empty when they pulled it off.
>>
>> /herb

Kate

It prolly quit ratteling because the heat shield finally fell off.

I'm kind fof with you, if it works, don't fix it.

Kate

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded pretty
>sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't replace it.
>
> OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
> passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the computer
> so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection why should
> I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them "fix" the
> computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
> Herb Leong wrote:
>> In article <rqGPg.12794$Qg.6763@southeast.rr.com>,
>> Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> #I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>> #the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>> I had the cat recalled on my '87 YJ in the early 90's. The dealer said
>> the cat was empty when they pulled it off.
>>
>> /herb

Peter Parker

In article <0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.com> ,
Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded
>pretty sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't
>replace it.
>
>OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
>passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the
>computer so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection
> why should I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them
>"fix" the computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>

I'm guessing they are ---- about the computer reprog because you have a
1996 or new vehicle? They would use the OBD-II to test for emissions instead
of the old sensor up the rear pipe.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Peter Parker

In article <0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.com> ,
Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded
>pretty sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't
>replace it.
>
>OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
>passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the
>computer so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection
> why should I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them
>"fix" the computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>

I'm guessing they are ---- about the computer reprog because you have a
1996 or new vehicle? They would use the OBD-II to test for emissions instead
of the old sensor up the rear pipe.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Peter Parker

In article <0O_Pg.31544$Md4.27108@tornado.southeast.rr.com> ,
Jeffrey DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>I talked to the service manager at Jeep dealer today and he sounded
>pretty sure that if the cat wasn't actually rattling they wouldn't
>replace it.
>
>OK, so the cat is bad and the computer doesn't know it so the Jeep still
>passes inspection. If all they are going to do is reprogram the
>computer so now it knows the cat is bad and so the Jeep fails inspection
> why should I let them do it? How is it to my advantage to have them
>"fix" the computer so my Jeep fails inspection?
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>

I'm guessing they are ---- about the computer reprog because you have a
1996 or new vehicle? They would use the OBD-II to test for emissions instead
of the old sensor up the rear pipe.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Dave

Damn! I replaced mine on my 97 XJ on 10/16/04 86,000-Miles. I guess I
could have waited but the rattle was bad. Dave
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:00:23 GMT, Jeffrey DeWitt
<JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>Good grief...
>
>I got a letter from Chrysler today that my Cherokee has been recalled.
>
>They say the computer needs to be reprogrammed because it probably
>doesn't trigger the check engine light, and they also want to check the
>catalytic converter to see if it's rattling, if it is they will replace
>it for free!
>
>This is a 10 year old Jeep with 300,000+ miles on it and a (not
>Chrysler) factory rebuilt engine and they want to work on it for free!
>
>I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>and there have been no more problems with it for the past 200,000 miles
>or so.
>
>I've often wondered what happened to the cat to quiet it down, might the
>stuff have fallen out or did enough stuff build up to glue everything
>back together?
>
>The Jeep probably really does need a new cat, and it DID rattle, I
>wonder if giving the thing a smack with a hammer cushioned by a block of
>wood would get it rattling again.
>
>I'm not trying to get over on Chrysler, the thing DID rattle and I
>suspect it doesn't work right and hasn't in years.
>
>Any comments or suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jeff DeWitt

Dave

Damn! I replaced mine on my 97 XJ on 10/16/04 86,000-Miles. I guess I
could have waited but the rattle was bad. Dave
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:00:23 GMT, Jeffrey DeWitt
<JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>Good grief...
>
>I got a letter from Chrysler today that my Cherokee has been recalled.
>
>They say the computer needs to be reprogrammed because it probably
>doesn't trigger the check engine light, and they also want to check the
>catalytic converter to see if it's rattling, if it is they will replace
>it for free!
>
>This is a 10 year old Jeep with 300,000+ miles on it and a (not
>Chrysler) factory rebuilt engine and they want to work on it for free!
>
>I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>and there have been no more problems with it for the past 200,000 miles
>or so.
>
>I've often wondered what happened to the cat to quiet it down, might the
>stuff have fallen out or did enough stuff build up to glue everything
>back together?
>
>The Jeep probably really does need a new cat, and it DID rattle, I
>wonder if giving the thing a smack with a hammer cushioned by a block of
>wood would get it rattling again.
>
>I'm not trying to get over on Chrysler, the thing DID rattle and I
>suspect it doesn't work right and hasn't in years.
>
>Any comments or suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jeff DeWitt

Dave

Damn! I replaced mine on my 97 XJ on 10/16/04 86,000-Miles. I guess I
could have waited but the rattle was bad. Dave
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:00:23 GMT, Jeffrey DeWitt
<JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>Good grief...
>
>I got a letter from Chrysler today that my Cherokee has been recalled.
>
>They say the computer needs to be reprogrammed because it probably
>doesn't trigger the check engine light, and they also want to check the
>catalytic converter to see if it's rattling, if it is they will replace
>it for free!
>
>This is a 10 year old Jeep with 300,000+ miles on it and a (not
>Chrysler) factory rebuilt engine and they want to work on it for free!
>
>I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>and there have been no more problems with it for the past 200,000 miles
>or so.
>
>I've often wondered what happened to the cat to quiet it down, might the
>stuff have fallen out or did enough stuff build up to glue everything
>back together?
>
>The Jeep probably really does need a new cat, and it DID rattle, I
>wonder if giving the thing a smack with a hammer cushioned by a block of
>wood would get it rattling again.
>
>I'm not trying to get over on Chrysler, the thing DID rattle and I
>suspect it doesn't work right and hasn't in years.
>
>Any comments or suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jeff DeWitt

Jeffrey DeWitt

I put in a new downstream oxygen sensor from oxygensensors.com ($49.90
instead of the $120 at a FLAPS!) and my "Check Engine" light has stayed
out for the past few days.

With the light out my Jeep will pass inspection.

Thanks Bill!

Jeff DeWitt

Dave wrote:
> Damn! I replaced mine on my 97 XJ on 10/16/04 86,000-Miles. I guess I
> could have waited but the rattle was bad. Dave
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:00:23 GMT, Jeffrey DeWitt
> <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good grief...
>>
>>I got a letter from Chrysler today that my Cherokee has been recalled.
>>
>>They say the computer needs to be reprogrammed because it probably
>>doesn't trigger the check engine light, and they also want to check the
>>catalytic converter to see if it's rattling, if it is they will replace
>>it for free!
>>
>>This is a 10 year old Jeep with 300,000+ miles on it and a (not
>>Chrysler) factory rebuilt engine and they want to work on it for free!
>>
>>I think they are right about the computer not picking up a failing cat,
>>the thing rattled quite a bit for a while but eventually calmed down...
>>and there have been no more problems with it for the past 200,000 miles
>>or so.
>>
>>I've often wondered what happened to the cat to quiet it down, might the
>>stuff have fallen out or did enough stuff build up to glue everything
>>back together?
>>
>>The Jeep probably really does need a new cat, and it DID rattle, I
>>wonder if giving the thing a smack with a hammer cushioned by a block of
>>wood would get it rattling again.
>>
>>I'm not trying to get over on Chrysler, the thing DID rattle and I
>>suspect it doesn't work right and hasn't in years.
>>
>>Any comments or suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>
>