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Re: rear play
well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in
there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's just a bearing. Cheers for the help and advice tho... Simon www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > how much or how it's measured though. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in
there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's just a bearing. Cheers for the help and advice tho... Simon www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > how much or how it's measured though. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
Thanks guys, what diff oil would you recommend??? One mechanic I've
spoken to has suggested 75/140??? never used that before myself, but this is the first time I've changed the fluid since putting the truetrac's in. Cheers Simon Mike Romain wrote: > Hope it's just water you mean.... > > You might have no damage yet, just some wear. > > I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. > > The inch of rotation is normal. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Simon Redmond wrote: > >>well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in >>there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops >> >>teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's >>just a bearing. >> >>Cheers for the help and advice tho... >> >>Simon >>www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk >> >>"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message >>news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... >> >>>Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure >>>how much or how it's measured though. >>> >>>-- >>>JimG >>>80' CJ-7 258 CID >>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines >>>D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA >>>4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R >>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks >>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >>> >>>"Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message >>>news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... >>> >>>>Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it >>>>sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things >>> >>>am >>> >>>>about to check diff fluid and change.>>>> >>>>Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had >> >>about >> >>>>an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have >>>>recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this >>>>setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: rear play
Thanks guys, what diff oil would you recommend??? One mechanic I've
spoken to has suggested 75/140??? never used that before myself, but this is the first time I've changed the fluid since putting the truetrac's in. Cheers Simon Mike Romain wrote: > Hope it's just water you mean.... > > You might have no damage yet, just some wear. > > I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. > > The inch of rotation is normal. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Simon Redmond wrote: > >>well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in >>there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops >> >>teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's >>just a bearing. >> >>Cheers for the help and advice tho... >> >>Simon >>www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk >> >>"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message >>news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... >> >>>Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure >>>how much or how it's measured though. >>> >>>-- >>>JimG >>>80' CJ-7 258 CID >>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines >>>D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA >>>4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R >>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks >>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >>> >>>"Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message >>>news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... >>> >>>>Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it >>>>sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things >>> >>>am >>> >>>>about to check diff fluid and change.>>>> >>>>Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had >> >>about >> >>>>an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have >>>>recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this >>>>setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> |
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