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rear play
Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it
sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am about to check diff fluid and change. Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81
CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't know if this helps you or not. "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81
CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't know if this helps you or not. "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81
CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't know if this helps you or not. "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure
how much or how it's measured though. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure
how much or how it's measured though. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure
how much or how it's measured though. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things am > about to check diff fluid and change. > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > |
Re: rear play
sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear....
Simon "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UxxOb.162518$ts4.137923@pd7tw3no... > Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81 > CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no > locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't > know if this helps you or not. > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear....
Simon "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UxxOb.162518$ts4.137923@pd7tw3no... > Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81 > CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no > locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't > know if this helps you or not. > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear....
Simon "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UxxOb.162518$ts4.137923@pd7tw3no... > Don't know what vehicle you have, but I just changed back axles on my 81 > CJ, still up on stands, had dif cover off, still looks like new in there, no > locker, anyway I can turn one wheel a 1/4 turn before the other does, don't > know if this helps you or not. > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, and the
Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Simon Redmond wrote: > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, and the
Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Simon Redmond wrote: > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, and the
Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Simon Redmond wrote: > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, not a locker. And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up properly. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ and the > Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Simon Redmond wrote: > > > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > > am > > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > > about > > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, not a locker. And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up properly. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ and the > Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Simon Redmond wrote: > > > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > > am > > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > > about > > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, not a locker. And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up properly. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ and the > Dana 35c to have axle end play, BUT sound equals damage! > http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Be looking for a Dana 44 replacement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Simon Redmond wrote: > > > > sorry should have mentioned..... 93YJ dana 35 rear.... > > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > > am > > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > > about > > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! |
Re: rear play
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, > not a locker. > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up > properly. > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. |
Re: rear play
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, > not a locker. > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up > properly. > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. |
Re: rear play
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip differential, > not a locker. > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them up > properly. > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. |
Re: rear play
well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in
there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's just a bearing. Cheers for the help and advice tho... Simon www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > how much or how it's measured though. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in
there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's just a bearing. Cheers for the help and advice tho... Simon www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > how much or how it's measured though. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in
there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's just a bearing. Cheers for the help and advice tho... Simon www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > how much or how it's measured though. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > am > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had about > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
Hope it's just water you mean....
You might have no damage yet, just some wear. I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. The inch of rotation is normal. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in > there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops > > teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's > just a bearing. > > Cheers for the help and advice tho... > > Simon > www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk > > "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... > > Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure > > how much or how it's measured though. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message > > news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it > > > sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things > > am > > > about to check diff fluid and change. > > > > > > Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had > about > > > an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have > > > recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this > > > setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may
be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. Steve "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > differential, > > not a locker. > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > up > > properly. > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal in > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is wrong. > |
Re: rear play
Thanks guys, what diff oil would you recommend??? One mechanic I've
spoken to has suggested 75/140??? never used that before myself, but this is the first time I've changed the fluid since putting the truetrac's in. Cheers Simon Mike Romain wrote: > Hope it's just water you mean.... > > You might have no damage yet, just some wear. > > I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. > > The inch of rotation is normal. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Simon Redmond wrote: > >>well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in >>there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops >> >>teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's >>just a bearing. >> >>Cheers for the help and advice tho... >> >>Simon >>www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk >> >>"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message >>news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... >> >>>Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure >>>how much or how it's measured though. >>> >>>-- >>>JimG >>>80' CJ-7 258 CID >>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines >>>D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA >>>4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R >>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks >>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >>> >>>"Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message >>>news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... >>> >>>>Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it >>>>sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things >>> >>>am >>> >>>>about to check diff fluid and change.>>>> >>>>Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had >> >>about >> >>>>an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have >>>>recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this >>>>setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: rear play
Thanks guys, what diff oil would you recommend??? One mechanic I've
spoken to has suggested 75/140??? never used that before myself, but this is the first time I've changed the fluid since putting the truetrac's in. Cheers Simon Mike Romain wrote: > Hope it's just water you mean.... > > You might have no damage yet, just some wear. > > I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. > > The inch of rotation is normal. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Simon Redmond wrote: > >>well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in >>there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops >> >>teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's >>just a bearing. >> >>Cheers for the help and advice tho... >> >>Simon >>www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk >> >>"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message >>news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... >> >>>Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure >>>how much or how it's measured though. >>> >>>-- >>>JimG >>>80' CJ-7 258 CID >>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines >>>D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA >>>4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R >>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks >>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >>> >>>"Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message >>>news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... >>> >>>>Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it >>>>sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things >>> >>>am >>> >>>>about to check diff fluid and change.>>>> >>>>Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had >> >>about >> >>>>an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have >>>>recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this >>>>setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: rear play
Thanks guys, what diff oil would you recommend??? One mechanic I've
spoken to has suggested 75/140??? never used that before myself, but this is the first time I've changed the fluid since putting the truetrac's in. Cheers Simon Mike Romain wrote: > Hope it's just water you mean.... > > You might have no damage yet, just some wear. > > I would fill it and drive it to see before ripping anything apart. > > The inch of rotation is normal. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Simon Redmond wrote: > >>well dropped the fluid out and I think I've managed to get some water in >>there, just milky grey goop came out..... oops >> >>teeth look OK and can't see an obvious signs of damage, so am hoping it's >>just a bearing. >> >>Cheers for the help and advice tho... >> >>Simon >>www.bucksjeepclub.co.uk >> >>"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message >>news:CKxOb.3007$zs.184@news02.roc.ny... >> >>>Some play is normal and is designed in when the gears are setup. Not sure >>>how much or how it's measured though. >>> >>>-- >>>JimG >>>80' CJ-7 258 CID >>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines >>>D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA >>>4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R >>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks >>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >>> >>>"Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message >>>news:budujc$akf$1@titan.btinternet.com... >>> >>>>Jeep has started making a new noise..... only way to describe it, is it >>>>sounds like a whining when on the gas.... checked all the obvious things >>> >>>am >>> >>>>about to check diff fluid and change.>>>> >>>>Now this is my question, when I jacked the rear up and checked I had >> >>about >> >>>>an inch where I can turn one rear wheel before the other moves (have >>>>recently had fitted 4.56 gears and a truetrac) is this normal with this >>>>setup???? or is normal anyway??? please say yes! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: rear play
When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would cause that would? Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you get above 40mph..... couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus it's 200 miles away. "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > Steve > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > differential, > > > not a locker. > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > > up > > > properly. > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal > in > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > wrong. > > > > |
Re: rear play
When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would cause that would? Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you get above 40mph..... couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus it's 200 miles away. "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > Steve > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > differential, > > > not a locker. > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > > up > > > properly. > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal > in > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > wrong. > > > > |
Re: rear play
When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would cause that would? Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you get above 40mph..... couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus it's 200 miles away. "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p may > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the r > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > Steve > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > differential, > > > not a locker. > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set them > > up > > > properly. > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not abnormal > in > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > wrong. > > > > |
Re: rear play
The whine is dangerous!
Just had a pro do my rear bearings and it is so quite it is scary. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
The whine is dangerous!
Just had a pro do my rear bearings and it is so quite it is scary. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
The whine is dangerous!
Just had a pro do my rear bearings and it is so quite it is scary. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Simon Redmond wrote: > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
What bearings did you replace? Both pinion and both carrier? Axle bearings
as well? In order to diagnose the noise I would run it with the wheels off the ground and take my stethescope to the bearing points. You can usually hear/feel the rumble set up by a bad bearing. You should have removed and inspected all of the bearings when you had it apart to replace whatever it was you did replace. Water can cause pitting in the bearings that causes the noise, can also cause accelerated wear of the crown and pinion gears, side gears and spiders. Steve "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:bv3ou4$mh$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
What bearings did you replace? Both pinion and both carrier? Axle bearings
as well? In order to diagnose the noise I would run it with the wheels off the ground and take my stethescope to the bearing points. You can usually hear/feel the rumble set up by a bad bearing. You should have removed and inspected all of the bearings when you had it apart to replace whatever it was you did replace. Water can cause pitting in the bearings that causes the noise, can also cause accelerated wear of the crown and pinion gears, side gears and spiders. Steve "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:bv3ou4$mh$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > |
Re: rear play
What bearings did you replace? Both pinion and both carrier? Axle bearings
as well? In order to diagnose the noise I would run it with the wheels off the ground and take my stethescope to the bearing points. You can usually hear/feel the rumble set up by a bad bearing. You should have removed and inspected all of the bearings when you had it apart to replace whatever it was you did replace. Water can cause pitting in the bearings that causes the noise, can also cause accelerated wear of the crown and pinion gears, side gears and spiders. Steve "Simon Redmond" <noreply@sibass.com> wrote in message news:bv3ou4$mh$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > When I dropped the rear prop out there was about 1/8" of slop on the pinion, > didn't seem right to me! Also correct me if I wrong but water ingress would > cause that would? > > Took all apart and replaced the all the bearings, not too difficult.... but > then I had a mate who helped. Everything is back together again it sounds > 1000 times better, there is still a very slight whine (you can only just > here it if you listen for it) but this gets overtaken by tire noise when you > get above 40mph..... > > couldn't afford to take it back to the shop, they said it was because of the > water damage and wanted £400 to take a look and replace the bearings plus > it's 200 miles away. > > "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message > news:3u0Pb.174978$JQ1.69364@pd7tw1no... > > The slop is normal, and it's not probably tied to the R & P. The r & p > may > > be making the noise but the play is in the axle and spider gears. If the > r > > & P had enough slop to give you an inch of movement it would be going into > > gear with a hell of a bang. Ring and pinion noise is usualy characterized > > by a whine under either coast or load, but not usually both and it may be > > more prominent at one speed than another. It is not usually caused by > > excessive space between crown and pinion, it's caused by incorrect pinion > > depth, the gear pattern not being centered on the tooth of the crown. If > > the whine is constand and increases with speed but doesn't change with > > coast/load it's quite likely a bearing; wheel, axle, carrier, pinion. > > Steve > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:100odl6maj1l236@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > > news:Q0AOb.6285$bg1.6273@fed1read05... > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > news:400AC637.8191055B@cox.net... > > > > > It is normal, for the Tru-Trac locker to have some slop, > > > > > > > > Bill, you should know by now that a Truetrac is a limited slip > > > differential, > > > > not a locker. > > > > > > > > And Simon, the whine sounds like the R&P installer may have not set > them > > > up > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Jerry on this one. The slop you are experiencing is not > abnormal > > in > > > itself, but coupled with the noise, it sounds like the R&P set-up is > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > |
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