Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
from Quadratec.

I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
axle tube.

If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.

Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
seals will leak and keep leaking. Best thing to do is get a good but used
on at the bone yard you will be better off.

Coasty


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
seals will leak and keep leaking. Best thing to do is get a good but used
on at the bone yard you will be better off.

Coasty


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
seals will leak and keep leaking. Best thing to do is get a good but used
on at the bone yard you will be better off.

Coasty


"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I have never heard of a successful 'fix' for a bent axle housing. I
have heard of the tubes being removed and new ones put in with again
limited success.

You won't be able to bend it 'back', it is really thick walled tubing.

I would recommend a used unit or if insurance or the 'hitter' is paying,
a new one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I have never heard of a successful 'fix' for a bent axle housing. I
have heard of the tubes being removed and new ones put in with again
limited success.

You won't be able to bend it 'back', it is really thick walled tubing.

I would recommend a used unit or if insurance or the 'hitter' is paying,
a new one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I have never heard of a successful 'fix' for a bent axle housing. I
have heard of the tubes being removed and new ones put in with again
limited success.

You won't be able to bend it 'back', it is really thick walled tubing.

I would recommend a used unit or if insurance or the 'hitter' is paying,
a new one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Get another axle, aren't they free for the taking from people
trying to clean the junk from their back yards?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Get another axle, aren't they free for the taking from people
trying to clean the junk from their back yards?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Get another axle, aren't they free for the taking from people
trying to clean the junk from their back yards?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Coasty writes:

> No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
> seals will leak and keep leaking.

Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't leaking now.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Coasty writes:

> No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
> seals will leak and keep leaking.

Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't leaking now.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Coasty writes:

> No matter what you do it will never be right and you are guaranteed the
> seals will leak and keep leaking.

Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't leaking now.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I agree with everyone else -- replace it.

If you're in Texas, I happen to know someone with a D35 w/4.88s for sale.
Me! ;-)

- Eric

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I agree with everyone else -- replace it.

If you're in Texas, I happen to know someone with a D35 w/4.88s for sale.
Me! ;-)

- Eric

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

I agree with everyone else -- replace it.

If you're in Texas, I happen to know someone with a D35 w/4.88s for sale.
Me! ;-)

- Eric

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98771E2D32A7Asomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> My (son's) 1997 TJ took a collision to the right rear. Crunched the
> corner
> of the body and the bumperette, hit the tire taking it off rim, and bent
> the axle and axle tube slightly. I pulled the axle from the Dana 35 and
> will replace it with a take-off from someone's upgrade. Shock absorber
> was
> yanked off its bent bolts on top; straightened that and put it back on
> with
> new bolts. The suspension arms were both buckled and replaced with spares
> from Quadratec.
>
> I clamped a 10 foot piece of SuperStrut to the brake backing plate, and
> used that as a long lever to straighten the plate square to the end of the
> axle tube.
>
> If I hold a straightedge to the axle tube, it looks to be bent forward
> about 1/8 or 1/4 inch along its length still. I tried disconnecting the
> suspension arm, putting a long bar into the axle tube, and heaving back
> over and over. Doesn't seem to budge it much.
>
> Any tips on straightening this thing while it's still on the vehicle?

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98779289BC5EFsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Coasty writes:
>
> > No matter what you do it will never be right and you are
> > guaranteed the seals will leak and keep leaking.
>
> Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't
> leaking now.

These guys are in principle right, but you could get lucky. Is this thing
driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
the road sideways? Does it wear tires funny? (This one could take a while
to figure out.) Does it swerve in the wrong direction when you stomp on the
brakes? I don't think you can straighten this without running the risk of
causing more damage, but you might be able to live with it. I would get a
new brake backing plate though.

Earle



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Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98779289BC5EFsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Coasty writes:
>
> > No matter what you do it will never be right and you are
> > guaranteed the seals will leak and keep leaking.
>
> Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't
> leaking now.

These guys are in principle right, but you could get lucky. Is this thing
driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
the road sideways? Does it wear tires funny? (This one could take a while
to figure out.) Does it swerve in the wrong direction when you stomp on the
brakes? I don't think you can straighten this without running the risk of
causing more damage, but you might be able to live with it. I would get a
new brake backing plate though.

Earle



--
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Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98779289BC5EFsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Coasty writes:
>
> > No matter what you do it will never be right and you are
> > guaranteed the seals will leak and keep leaking.
>
> Guaranteed? It didn't leak after the collision, and it isn't
> leaking now.

These guys are in principle right, but you could get lucky. Is this thing
driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
the road sideways? Does it wear tires funny? (This one could take a while
to figure out.) Does it swerve in the wrong direction when you stomp on the
brakes? I don't think you can straighten this without running the risk of
causing more damage, but you might be able to live with it. I would get a
new brake backing plate though.

Earle



--
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Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Earle Horton writes:

> Is this thing
> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
> the road sideways?

I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.

I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle), and
about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
traction slipping.

I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an approximately
straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car on
I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old
TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Earle Horton writes:

> Is this thing
> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
> the road sideways?

I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.

I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle), and
about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
traction slipping.

I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an approximately
straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car on
I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old
TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Earle Horton writes:

> Is this thing
> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
> the road sideways?

I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.

I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle), and
about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
traction slipping.

I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an approximately
straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car on
I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old
TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Richard J Kinch wrote:

> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that
> hit my son's car on I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant
> who took off running when the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife
> insurance company that should be paying for this has stalled for
> months, so we need time to sue them to pay for the proper repairs,
> but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old TJ back to
> something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

I've met very few insurance companies that will get to the lawyer
phase. The last one that dicked me around wound up paying nearly
four times what it would have cost them had they simply paid up
on time.

Check your insurance laws, in several states you can go after the
loss of resale value caused by the accident. The insurance company
term is "diminished value" arguably less on an older vehicle though.

Did they get the perp for hit and run?

--
DougW

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Richard J Kinch wrote:

> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that
> hit my son's car on I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant
> who took off running when the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife
> insurance company that should be paying for this has stalled for
> months, so we need time to sue them to pay for the proper repairs,
> but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old TJ back to
> something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

I've met very few insurance companies that will get to the lawyer
phase. The last one that dicked me around wound up paying nearly
four times what it would have cost them had they simply paid up
on time.

Check your insurance laws, in several states you can go after the
loss of resale value caused by the accident. The insurance company
term is "diminished value" arguably less on an older vehicle though.

Did they get the perp for hit and run?

--
DougW

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Richard J Kinch wrote:

> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that
> hit my son's car on I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant
> who took off running when the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife
> insurance company that should be paying for this has stalled for
> months, so we need time to sue them to pay for the proper repairs,
> but in the meantime we want to get this 10-year-old TJ back to
> something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

I've met very few insurance companies that will get to the lawyer
phase. The last one that dicked me around wound up paying nearly
four times what it would have cost them had they simply paid up
on time.

Check your insurance laws, in several states you can go after the
loss of resale value caused by the accident. The insurance company
term is "diminished value" arguably less on an older vehicle though.

Did they get the perp for hit and run?

--
DougW

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

DougW writes:

> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
specializes in insuring the uninsurable.

> Did they get the perp for hit and run?

Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.

The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.

This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to just
buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

DougW writes:

> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
specializes in insuring the uninsurable.

> Did they get the perp for hit and run?

Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.

The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.

This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to just
buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

DougW writes:

> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?

If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
specializes in insuring the uninsurable.

> Did they get the perp for hit and run?

Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.

The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.

This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to just
buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
than it is to work for your living.

Carl

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877EF9E04046someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> DougW writes:
>
>> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
>> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?
>
> If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
> judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
> specializes in insuring the uninsurable.
>
>> Did they get the perp for hit and run?
>
> Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.
>
> The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.
>
> This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to
> just
> buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
> going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
than it is to work for your living.

Carl

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877EF9E04046someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> DougW writes:
>
>> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
>> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?
>
> If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
> judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
> specializes in insuring the uninsurable.
>
>> Did they get the perp for hit and run?
>
> Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.
>
> The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.
>
> This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to
> just
> buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
> going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
than it is to work for your living.

Carl

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877EF9E04046someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> DougW writes:
>
>> Not sure about the laws where you are, but can you attach the
>> vehicle that hit you and sell it to recover damages?
>
> If you win a judgment in court, you can take any assets of the
> judgment debtor you like. The problem is winning vs an insurer who
> specializes in insuring the uninsurable.
>
>> Did they get the perp for hit and run?
>
> Carlos Rodriguez? Lemme know if you know where he is. Still a fugitive.
>
> The FHP isn't going to start a manhunt over some property damage.
>
> This corner of Florida reminds me of NY/NJ lately. You're supposed to
> just
> buy your own insurance to cover criminal acts like this. The state is not
> going to enforce justice.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Carl wrote:

> No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
> than it is to work for your living.


Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
insurance company.

Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
period.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Carl wrote:

> No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
> than it is to work for your living.


Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
insurance company.

Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
period.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Carl wrote:

> No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career criminal
> than it is to work for your living.


Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
insurance company.

Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
period.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

If the property crime is enough, they will care. An FBI agent told me that
they would be interested for "say $150,000" in a fraud case while your local
officials may get involved for somewhat less. Not for a wrecked TJ though,
not unless there is personal injury.

Earle

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:v6GdnZIcGcyiUMjYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Carl wrote:
>
> > No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> > haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career
criminal
> > than it is to work for your living.
>
>
> Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
> and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
> insurance company.
>
> Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
> either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
> matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
> for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
> him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
> period.
>
>



--
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Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

If the property crime is enough, they will care. An FBI agent told me that
they would be interested for "say $150,000" in a fraud case while your local
officials may get involved for somewhat less. Not for a wrecked TJ though,
not unless there is personal injury.

Earle

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:v6GdnZIcGcyiUMjYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Carl wrote:
>
> > No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> > haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career
criminal
> > than it is to work for your living.
>
>
> Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
> and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
> insurance company.
>
> Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
> either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
> matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
> for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
> him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
> period.
>
>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

If the property crime is enough, they will care. An FBI agent told me that
they would be interested for "say $150,000" in a fraud case while your local
officials may get involved for somewhat less. Not for a wrecked TJ though,
not unless there is personal injury.

Earle

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:v6GdnZIcGcyiUMjYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Carl wrote:
>
> > No states care about property crimes anymore. This country has become a
> > haven for career criminals. It's easier and cheaper to be a career
criminal
> > than it is to work for your living.
>
>
> Agreed! They don't even want to know about your property crime anymore,
> and they won't even bother to take a report unless you need it for YOUR
> insurance company.
>
> Worse, they don't give a rip about 'minor' criminal matters anymore
> either. A former mayor from a town near me never showed in court for
> matters related to criminal corruption charges, and a warrant was issued
> for his arrest. Cops publically admitted they weren't going to go pick
> him up because he's not a dangerous felon. Nice attitude. Crime pays,
> period.
>
>



--
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Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it you
got it........

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877C04D46418someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Earle Horton writes:
>
>> Is this thing
>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
>> the road sideways?
>
> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>
> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle),
> and
> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
> traction slipping.
>
> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately
> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car
> on
> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> 10-year-old
> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it you
got it........

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877C04D46418someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Earle Horton writes:
>
>> Is this thing
>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
>> the road sideways?
>
> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>
> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle),
> and
> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
> traction slipping.
>
> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately
> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car
> on
> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> 10-year-old
> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.

Re: Rear axle tube bent in collision, how to bend back?
 

Here you go dems, and you want the illegals to stay, you asked for it you
got it........

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9877C04D46418someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Earle Horton writes:
>
>> Is this thing
>> driveable? If you get somebody to follow you, is it obviously going down
>> the road sideways?
>
> I haven't had it back together with a straight axle.
>
> I did drive it after the collision after replacing the suspension arms,
> when it had about 1/2 inch of runout on the wheel rotation (bent axle),
> and
> about 1/2 inch of toe-in misalignment besides (bent axle tube). The tire
> was audibly squirming but you didn't feel it shimmy except at walking
> speed. On wet pavement or going around turns or both, you could feel the
> traction slipping.
>
> I'm just hoping for rough driveability with a new axle and an
> approximately
> straightened axle tube and backing plate. The guy that hit my son's car
> on
> I-95 was a drunk, apparently illegal immigrant who took off running when
> the FHP showed up. The perp's lowlife insurance company that should be
> paying for this has stalled for months, so we need time to sue them to pay
> for the proper repairs, but in the meantime we want to get this
> 10-year-old
> TJ back to something ugly a college kid can still drive to class.