Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch (off
position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground terminal (black
wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes, this
black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper switch is
"on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra wire
from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the black wire
from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?

Mike

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch (off
> position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground terminal (black
> wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes, this
> black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper switch is
> "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra wire
> from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the black wire
> from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
>
> --
> Thanks Always !!!
> Paul '75 CJ5 258
> Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?

Mike

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch (off
> position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground terminal (black
> wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes, this
> black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper switch is
> "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra wire
> from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the black wire
> from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
>
> --
> Thanks Always !!!
> Paul '75 CJ5 258
> Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Hi Mike,
No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
though.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
>
> Mike
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch (off
> > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground terminal
(black
> > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
this
> > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper switch is
> > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra wire
> > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the black
wire
> > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Hi Mike,
No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
though.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
>
> Mike
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch (off
> > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground terminal
(black
> > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
this
> > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper switch is
> > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra wire
> > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the black
wire
> > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Ok, sounds like you might be on to something. That park ring will be
sucking some juice maybe.

I would snip that black wire going to the motor from the switch
someplace easy to fix later and see what happens.

When you had the motor apart, did you notice any burns or marks inside
on a copper or brass ring that goes part way around the end of the
shaft?

Was the brass ring maybe in upside down? The opening in it has to be in
the right place for park.

The black wire feeds this ring for park power and when the motor gets to
one point, a contact slides off the end of the ring into the opening
stopping the power and parking the wipers. The contact is a ground
tag. Or the ring is the ground and the contact is the black wire from
the switch, don't remember.

Mike

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> You know Mike, the wipers stop wherever when the switch is turned off. They
> don't park in the down position like most vehicles do. They never did
> though, even before the disassembly of the motor.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F6C5E39.1253DE37@sympatico.ca...
> > That black wire is the park signal I believe.
> >
> > So when you turn the switch off, the power feeds from the switch through
> > this black wire to the motor, through the motor parking brass ring and
> > to ground from there.
> >
> > If the parking ring isn't in good shape or isn't aligned right, maybe it
> > is causing some cross feed or a slight short.
> >
> > Did you notice this after putting the motor back together? Maybe the
> > ring got in upside down or something?
> >
> > When the wipers park are they 'free' on the glass, or does one hit the
> > metal windshield frame? If it was hitting, maybe it isn't allowing the
> > motor to fully 'park'.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
> > > though.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch
> (off
> > > > > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground
> terminal
> > > (black
> > > > > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
> > > this
> > > > > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper
> switch is
> > > > > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > > > > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra
> wire
> > > > > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the
> black
> > > wire
> > > > > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > > > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

Ok, sounds like you might be on to something. That park ring will be
sucking some juice maybe.

I would snip that black wire going to the motor from the switch
someplace easy to fix later and see what happens.

When you had the motor apart, did you notice any burns or marks inside
on a copper or brass ring that goes part way around the end of the
shaft?

Was the brass ring maybe in upside down? The opening in it has to be in
the right place for park.

The black wire feeds this ring for park power and when the motor gets to
one point, a contact slides off the end of the ring into the opening
stopping the power and parking the wipers. The contact is a ground
tag. Or the ring is the ground and the contact is the black wire from
the switch, don't remember.

Mike

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> You know Mike, the wipers stop wherever when the switch is turned off. They
> don't park in the down position like most vehicles do. They never did
> though, even before the disassembly of the motor.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F6C5E39.1253DE37@sympatico.ca...
> > That black wire is the park signal I believe.
> >
> > So when you turn the switch off, the power feeds from the switch through
> > this black wire to the motor, through the motor parking brass ring and
> > to ground from there.
> >
> > If the parking ring isn't in good shape or isn't aligned right, maybe it
> > is causing some cross feed or a slight short.
> >
> > Did you notice this after putting the motor back together? Maybe the
> > ring got in upside down or something?
> >
> > When the wipers park are they 'free' on the glass, or does one hit the
> > metal windshield frame? If it was hitting, maybe it isn't allowing the
> > motor to fully 'park'.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
> > > though.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch
> (off
> > > > > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground
> terminal
> > > (black
> > > > > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
> > > this
> > > > > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper
> switch is
> > > > > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > > > > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra
> wire
> > > > > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the
> black
> > > wire
> > > > > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > > > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

You know Mike, the wipers stop wherever when the switch is turned off. They
don't park in the down position like most vehicles do. They never did
though, even before the disassembly of the motor.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F6C5E39.1253DE37@sympatico.ca...
> That black wire is the park signal I believe.
>
> So when you turn the switch off, the power feeds from the switch through
> this black wire to the motor, through the motor parking brass ring and
> to ground from there.
>
> If the parking ring isn't in good shape or isn't aligned right, maybe it
> is causing some cross feed or a slight short.
>
> Did you notice this after putting the motor back together? Maybe the
> ring got in upside down or something?
>
> When the wipers park are they 'free' on the glass, or does one hit the
> metal windshield frame? If it was hitting, maybe it isn't allowing the
> motor to fully 'park'.
>
> Mike
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
> > though.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> > > Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch
(off
> > > > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground
terminal
> > (black
> > > > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
> > this
> > > > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper
switch is
> > > > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > > > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra
wire
> > > > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the
black
> > wire
> > > > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

You know Mike, the wipers stop wherever when the switch is turned off. They
don't park in the down position like most vehicles do. They never did
though, even before the disassembly of the motor.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F6C5E39.1253DE37@sympatico.ca...
> That black wire is the park signal I believe.
>
> So when you turn the switch off, the power feeds from the switch through
> this black wire to the motor, through the motor parking brass ring and
> to ground from there.
>
> If the parking ring isn't in good shape or isn't aligned right, maybe it
> is causing some cross feed or a slight short.
>
> Did you notice this after putting the motor back together? Maybe the
> ring got in upside down or something?
>
> When the wipers park are they 'free' on the glass, or does one hit the
> metal windshield frame? If it was hitting, maybe it isn't allowing the
> motor to fully 'park'.
>
> Mike
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > No it is just low and high speeds. No module that I've seen. I'll look
> > though.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F6B086B.973B1F30@sympatico.ca...
> > > Do you have an intermittent wiper module under the dash?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Paul Brogren wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > Thanks for the reply. This is where I'm at now. The wiper switch
(off
> > > > position) has continuity across the hot (12v) and the ground
terminal
> > (black
> > > > wire on the 3-wire harness). Black wire to the wiper motor. Yes,
> > this
> > > > black wire does test to chassis/ frame ground. When the wiper
switch is
> > > > "on" in either low or high there's no continuity to the black wired
> > > > terminal. Because the wiper motor is now grounded with a new extra
wire
> > > > from the wiper motor to the frame, I think I may disconnect the
black
> > wire
> > > > from the 3-wire wiper motor harness.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > > Vail, CO.

Re: Wiper / Ignition Wiring?
 

The last person to take the windshield off didn't plug in the
harness correctly. It's hard to do upside down under the dash, most of
us splice in a trailer type connection.
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Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> You know Mike, the wipers stop wherever when the switch is turned off. They
> don't park in the down position like most vehicles do. They never did
> though, even before the disassembly of the motor.