Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
#81
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
Diamonds are not worthless. They have no more "cost" than anything else
that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth" comes
from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
>
> > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless, but
> > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
>
> Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as industrial
> tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as rigid
> as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> competition.
>
>
that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth" comes
from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mO2dnXCKiNALO9aiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
> Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
>
> > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless, but
> > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
>
> Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as industrial
> tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as rigid
> as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> competition.
>
>
#82
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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> Car manufacturers and dealers are
> for the most part bottom feeding scum
i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
> and guys like you and Tom keep them
> doing it.
so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want, and
others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
i can live with that. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Car manufacturers and dealers are
> for the most part bottom feeding scum
i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
> and guys like you and Tom keep them
> doing it.
so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want, and
others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
i can live with that. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#83
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Car manufacturers and dealers are
> for the most part bottom feeding scum
i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
> and guys like you and Tom keep them
> doing it.
so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want, and
others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
i can live with that. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Car manufacturers and dealers are
> for the most part bottom feeding scum
i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
> and guys like you and Tom keep them
> doing it.
so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want, and
others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
i can live with that. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#84
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> What dealers do with otherwise hot selling, in demand products, that, for
> whatever reason, they can't sell but others can, (particularly special
> editions like Rubicon that are on VERY SHORT allocation) is to trade a
> dealer with a waiting list who'll give them over invoice for it. Happens
> every day.
it never happened at hendrick jeep in fayetteville nc that had 3 rubicons
sitting on the lot that they couldnt do anything with for 6 months after the
military left for iraq/afghanistan.
> I just called my local dealer's sales manager (from whom I bought my '01
WJ
> for $3k UNDER invoice) chances of getting a Rubicon for $100 over invoice
> are impossible
maybe at _that_ dealer.
> He knows of no dealers around the Country unable to move them, and if he
did
> he'd buy every one they had.
the assumption that your dealer knows jack about all the other jeep dealers
in the country is absurd. your dealer is telling you what he needs to in
order to justify his own business practices.
> Therefore, if you are trying to tell us
im not "trying to tell" you anything. if you make it easy for a dealer to
screw you, thats on you. things may be that way where you and earle live,
but its not hard to "find a deal" around here.
but while youre here bitching about how thomas and i are liars (thats
effectively what youre saying), we're both enjoying our rubicons that we
didnt have to get raped in order to enjoy.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:vknmnoffectk2c@corp.supernews.com...
> What dealers do with otherwise hot selling, in demand products, that, for
> whatever reason, they can't sell but others can, (particularly special
> editions like Rubicon that are on VERY SHORT allocation) is to trade a
> dealer with a waiting list who'll give them over invoice for it. Happens
> every day.
it never happened at hendrick jeep in fayetteville nc that had 3 rubicons
sitting on the lot that they couldnt do anything with for 6 months after the
military left for iraq/afghanistan.
> I just called my local dealer's sales manager (from whom I bought my '01
WJ
> for $3k UNDER invoice) chances of getting a Rubicon for $100 over invoice
> are impossible
maybe at _that_ dealer.
> He knows of no dealers around the Country unable to move them, and if he
did
> he'd buy every one they had.
the assumption that your dealer knows jack about all the other jeep dealers
in the country is absurd. your dealer is telling you what he needs to in
order to justify his own business practices.
> Therefore, if you are trying to tell us
im not "trying to tell" you anything. if you make it easy for a dealer to
screw you, thats on you. things may be that way where you and earle live,
but its not hard to "find a deal" around here.
but while youre here bitching about how thomas and i are liars (thats
effectively what youre saying), we're both enjoying our rubicons that we
didnt have to get raped in order to enjoy.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#85
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vknmnoffectk2c@corp.supernews.com...
> What dealers do with otherwise hot selling, in demand products, that, for
> whatever reason, they can't sell but others can, (particularly special
> editions like Rubicon that are on VERY SHORT allocation) is to trade a
> dealer with a waiting list who'll give them over invoice for it. Happens
> every day.
it never happened at hendrick jeep in fayetteville nc that had 3 rubicons
sitting on the lot that they couldnt do anything with for 6 months after the
military left for iraq/afghanistan.
> I just called my local dealer's sales manager (from whom I bought my '01
WJ
> for $3k UNDER invoice) chances of getting a Rubicon for $100 over invoice
> are impossible
maybe at _that_ dealer.
> He knows of no dealers around the Country unable to move them, and if he
did
> he'd buy every one they had.
the assumption that your dealer knows jack about all the other jeep dealers
in the country is absurd. your dealer is telling you what he needs to in
order to justify his own business practices.
> Therefore, if you are trying to tell us
im not "trying to tell" you anything. if you make it easy for a dealer to
screw you, thats on you. things may be that way where you and earle live,
but its not hard to "find a deal" around here.
but while youre here bitching about how thomas and i are liars (thats
effectively what youre saying), we're both enjoying our rubicons that we
didnt have to get raped in order to enjoy.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:vknmnoffectk2c@corp.supernews.com...
> What dealers do with otherwise hot selling, in demand products, that, for
> whatever reason, they can't sell but others can, (particularly special
> editions like Rubicon that are on VERY SHORT allocation) is to trade a
> dealer with a waiting list who'll give them over invoice for it. Happens
> every day.
it never happened at hendrick jeep in fayetteville nc that had 3 rubicons
sitting on the lot that they couldnt do anything with for 6 months after the
military left for iraq/afghanistan.
> I just called my local dealer's sales manager (from whom I bought my '01
WJ
> for $3k UNDER invoice) chances of getting a Rubicon for $100 over invoice
> are impossible
maybe at _that_ dealer.
> He knows of no dealers around the Country unable to move them, and if he
did
> he'd buy every one they had.
the assumption that your dealer knows jack about all the other jeep dealers
in the country is absurd. your dealer is telling you what he needs to in
order to justify his own business practices.
> Therefore, if you are trying to tell us
im not "trying to tell" you anything. if you make it easy for a dealer to
screw you, thats on you. things may be that way where you and earle live,
but its not hard to "find a deal" around here.
but while youre here bitching about how thomas and i are liars (thats
effectively what youre saying), we're both enjoying our rubicons that we
didnt have to get raped in order to enjoy.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#86
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
....makes you wanna say, "MMMMMMM!!!" :-D
"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f4bc4d9$1@shknews01...
> "just like d44s"
> and 44Ds... mmmmmmmmm 44Ds.....
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:YLOdnbjS17a5JdaiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > Diamonds are not worthless. They have no more "cost" than anything else
> > that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth"
comes
> > from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:mO2dnXCKiNALO9aiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
> > > Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
> > >
> > > > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless,
> but
> > > > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > > > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
> > >
> > > Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as
industrial
> > > tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as
rigid
> > > as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> > > of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> > > competition.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f4bc4d9$1@shknews01...
> "just like d44s"
> and 44Ds... mmmmmmmmm 44Ds.....
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:YLOdnbjS17a5JdaiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > Diamonds are not worthless. They have no more "cost" than anything else
> > that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth"
comes
> > from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:mO2dnXCKiNALO9aiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
> > > Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
> > >
> > > > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless,
> but
> > > > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > > > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
> > >
> > > Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as
industrial
> > > tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as
rigid
> > > as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> > > of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> > > competition.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#87
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
....makes you wanna say, "MMMMMMM!!!" :-D
"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f4bc4d9$1@shknews01...
> "just like d44s"
> and 44Ds... mmmmmmmmm 44Ds.....
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:YLOdnbjS17a5JdaiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > Diamonds are not worthless. They have no more "cost" than anything else
> > that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth"
comes
> > from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:mO2dnXCKiNALO9aiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
> > > Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
> > >
> > > > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless,
> but
> > > > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > > > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
> > >
> > > Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as
industrial
> > > tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as
rigid
> > > as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> > > of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> > > competition.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f4bc4d9$1@shknews01...
> "just like d44s"
> and 44Ds... mmmmmmmmm 44Ds.....
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:YLOdnbjS17a5JdaiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > Diamonds are not worthless. They have no more "cost" than anything else
> > that is dug out of the ground and polished. The "value" or "worth"
comes
> > from their usefulness. ...just like d44s and 4:1 xfer cases... :)
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:mO2dnXCKiNALO9aiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
> > > Approximately 8/26/03 08:36, twaldron uttered for posterity:
> > >
> > > > The same could be said for diamonds. They are inherently worthless,
> but
> > > > they have a HUGE perceived value, along with an artificial value set
> > > > forth and controlled by DeBeers and company.
> > >
> > > Diamonds are not worthless, they are extremely valuable as
industrial
> > > tools and in electronics. The DeBeers monopoly is not quite as
rigid
> > > as it used to be due to competition from Russia. Man made diamonds
> > > of gem quality are more expensive than their naturally ocurring
> > > competition.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#88
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
Damn it, Nate! It's all your fault!!!
;)
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:rQQ2b.27308$r15.1103181@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Car manufacturers and dealers are
> > for the most part bottom feeding scum
>
> i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
>
> > and guys like you and Tom keep them
> > doing it.
>
> so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
> here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want,
and
> others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
> i can live with that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
;)
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:rQQ2b.27308$r15.1103181@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Car manufacturers and dealers are
> > for the most part bottom feeding scum
>
> i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
>
> > and guys like you and Tom keep them
> > doing it.
>
> so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
> here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want,
and
> others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
> i can live with that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
#89
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
Damn it, Nate! It's all your fault!!!
;)
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:rQQ2b.27308$r15.1103181@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Car manufacturers and dealers are
> > for the most part bottom feeding scum
>
> i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
>
> > and guys like you and Tom keep them
> > doing it.
>
> so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
> here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want,
and
> others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
> i can live with that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
;)
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathanis@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:rQQ2b.27308$r15.1103181@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bigks4$924nj$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Car manufacturers and dealers are
> > for the most part bottom feeding scum
>
> i dont think anyone is arguing that point.
>
> > and guys like you and Tom keep them
> > doing it.
>
> so its my fault. let me think this over........ok, ive come to a decision
> here. ill keep working to fund my desire to drive what and when i want,
and
> others who cant afford to can simply blame their inability to do so on me.
> i can live with that. :-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
#90
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Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Damn it, Nate! It's all your fault!!!
> ;)
im sorry <hanging head down in shame>.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:gGCdnVmoSeHvZ9aiXTWJiA@comcast.com...
> Damn it, Nate! It's all your fault!!!
> ;)
im sorry <hanging head down in shame>.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com