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Gerald G. McGeorge 08-23-2003 09:44 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Nothing like ABS unlocking the brakes as
you come down Black Bear into Telluride, eh Earle?

Actually, two years ago on the first switchback on Black Bear I snapped a
stainless line on the left front of my YJ and had the "pleasure" of coming
down the rest of the way into town with the emergency brake only.....a true
as true can be story. Therefore, I have experienced the joys of ABS while
wheeling!


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi91oh$6simg$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You probably like ABS too...
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and

> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what

I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been

> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all

> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can

> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not

> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your

> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to

> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get

real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,

are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.

> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart

you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a

> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25

> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new

> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential

customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front

and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP

> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of

what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear

> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go

> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,

> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy

> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and

> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are

> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are

> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"

> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my

> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving

> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean

> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much

> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC

> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the

> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous

> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,

> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the

> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all

> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it

without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't

> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not

> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.

> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees

> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to

> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Nathan W. Collier 08-23-2003 09:46 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
? i missed the part where everybody decided to hammer earle. how did that
interesting turn come about?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com



Nathan W. Collier 08-23-2003 09:46 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
? i missed the part where everybody decided to hammer earle. how did that
interesting turn come about?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com



Gerald G. McGeorge 08-23-2003 09:47 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Cappa is a Potty Mouth, bathroom humor driven moron who has trashed any
number of vintage Jeeps fro the fun of doing it. He'll hopefully be gone
soon. (Nonetheless he dissed the Rubicon in learned fashion.)


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:9-OdnTGy8sFIGdqiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> Ever since Cappa and his "cronies" took over jp, most of the articles have
> been junk. Did you see what he did to a perfectly good Wagoneer? I don't
> intend to renew next time. Most of the people I've talked to about it
> agree.
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
> news:h5C1b.24497$5H4.606048@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> > news:RZB1b.230959$o%2.105998@sccrnsc02...
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine

> >
> > sorry......you were _so_ right the first time i had to repeat it. :-)
> >
> >
> > > I can find better jeep ---- on the internet.

> >
> > lol....for sure!
> >
> > --
> > Nathan W. Collier
> > http://7SlotGrille.com
> >
> >

>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 08-23-2003 09:47 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Cappa is a Potty Mouth, bathroom humor driven moron who has trashed any
number of vintage Jeeps fro the fun of doing it. He'll hopefully be gone
soon. (Nonetheless he dissed the Rubicon in learned fashion.)


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:9-OdnTGy8sFIGdqiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> Ever since Cappa and his "cronies" took over jp, most of the articles have
> been junk. Did you see what he did to a perfectly good Wagoneer? I don't
> intend to renew next time. Most of the people I've talked to about it
> agree.
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
> news:h5C1b.24497$5H4.606048@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > "Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
> > news:RZB1b.230959$o%2.105998@sccrnsc02...
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine
> > > face it; there isn't a lot of practicle information in JP magazine

> >
> > sorry......you were _so_ right the first time i had to repeat it. :-)
> >
> >
> > > I can find better jeep ---- on the internet.

> >
> > lol....for sure!
> >
> > --
> > Nathan W. Collier
> > http://7SlotGrille.com
> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 08-23-2003 09:51 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
"George" seems like a good nick for a guy named "Gerald G. McGeorge." If
you don't like it I'll bet I can come up with a better one. ;o)

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkg5chk9qcilfb@corp.supernews.com...
> Relax, Earle, I have no axe to grind. (However, aren't you kinda worried
> that all the folks in Silverton with the old CJs & even the flaties might
> think YOU'RE a rich sissie what with that YJ and all?)
>
> By the way, who the hell is "George"
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bi803a$66m5l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > This doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me. There are people who post all

> the
> > time who are idiots, and some people who hardly ever post but when they
> > finally have something to say it is worth reading. You haven't made it

> into
> > either category yet, but keep trying. ;o)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:vkenvfaueqlg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for

> years.
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:K1J1b.277$p%.187694187@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > > I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> > > > diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A

troll
> > > > is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all

the
> > > > chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
> > > >
> > > > Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > > >
> > > > >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before)

i
> > > figured
> > > > > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the

> feeling
> > > of
> > > > > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a

direct
> > > > > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the

> past
> > > some
> > > > > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong

> way
> > > and
> > > > > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not

> > with
> > > the
> > > > > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe

thats
> > > what
> > > > > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll,

and
> > only
> > > do
> > > > > when its blatently obvious.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 08-23-2003 09:51 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
"George" seems like a good nick for a guy named "Gerald G. McGeorge." If
you don't like it I'll bet I can come up with a better one. ;o)

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkg5chk9qcilfb@corp.supernews.com...
> Relax, Earle, I have no axe to grind. (However, aren't you kinda worried
> that all the folks in Silverton with the old CJs & even the flaties might
> think YOU'RE a rich sissie what with that YJ and all?)
>
> By the way, who the hell is "George"
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bi803a$66m5l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > This doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me. There are people who post all

> the
> > time who are idiots, and some people who hardly ever post but when they
> > finally have something to say it is worth reading. You haven't made it

> into
> > either category yet, but keep trying. ;o)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:vkenvfaueqlg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for

> years.
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:K1J1b.277$p%.187694187@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > > I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> > > > diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A

troll
> > > > is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all

the
> > > > chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
> > > >
> > > > Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > > >
> > > > >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before)

i
> > > figured
> > > > > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the

> feeling
> > > of
> > > > > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a

direct
> > > > > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the

> past
> > > some
> > > > > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong

> way
> > > and
> > > > > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not

> > with
> > > the
> > > > > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe

thats
> > > what
> > > > > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll,

and
> > only
> > > do
> > > > > when its blatently obvious.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




mabar 08-23-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Actually, I have heated power mirrors on my Chevy Van, and I would like to
also have them on my TJ. If they were available from the factory, I would
have ordered them.

Tom

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi830h$6cmr5$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> *Heated* power mirrors.
>
> Earle
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Well said, RR!
> >
> > Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you

> don't
> > > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and

went
> > > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,

and
> the
> > > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing

> the
> > > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a

> scratch.
> > >
> > > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take

away
> > > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better

equipped
> > > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some

> stupid
> > > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if

it
> had
> > > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool

Margarita
> > > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a

hot
> > > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain

my
> > > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >

>
>




mabar 08-23-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Actually, I have heated power mirrors on my Chevy Van, and I would like to
also have them on my TJ. If they were available from the factory, I would
have ordered them.

Tom

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi830h$6cmr5$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> *Heated* power mirrors.
>
> Earle
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Well said, RR!
> >
> > Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you

> don't
> > > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and

went
> > > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,

and
> the
> > > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing

> the
> > > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a

> scratch.
> > >
> > > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take

away
> > > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better

equipped
> > > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some

> stupid
> > > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if

it
> had
> > > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool

Margarita
> > > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a

hot
> > > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain

my
> > > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 08-23-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Tomb Raider Rubicon
 
Red thinks he knows something that his uncle and I don't. Give him a decade
or so...

Earle

"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
news:fOU1b.25965$5H4.708941@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> ? i missed the part where everybody decided to hammer earle. how did

that
> interesting turn come about?
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