Tyler Dirden

FWIW, neither mine, nor any of the Rubi's I've seen have had any paint
issues...
td

"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
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> argh.......the paint on my rubicon is starting to just pop off in spots!
i
> had noticed it before the move but it looked like chalky powder sitting on
> the paint (i thought maybe i had spilled some baking soda on it or
> something......i use baking soda daily). closer inspection shows flakes
of
> paint laying around with it crumbling (very brittle) all around where the
> paint is coming up.
> anybody else having this problem? when it stops raining im going to go
buy
> another digi-cam (last one got stolen during the move) and take some pics.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>

Thomas W.

Must be a South Carolina thing. :( Sorry you're having trouble with the
paint on the second one. Keep us posted.

Tyler Dirden wrote:
> FWIW, neither mine, nor any of the Rubi's I've seen have had any paint
> issues...
> td
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:6oXTa.285241$_w.11020391@twister.southeast.rr .com...
>
>>argh.......the paint on my rubicon is starting to just pop off in spots!
>
> i
>
>>had noticed it before the move but it looked like chalky powder sitting on
>>the paint (i thought maybe i had spilled some baking soda on it or
>>something......i use baking soda daily). closer inspection shows flakes
>
> of
>
>>paint laying around with it crumbling (very brittle) all around where the
>>paint is coming up.
>>anybody else having this problem? when it stops raining im going to go
>
> buy
>
>>another digi-cam (last one got stolen during the move) and take some pics.
>>
>>--
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>
>>
>
>
>


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DougW

Tyler Dirden wrote:
> FWIW, neither mine, nor any of the Rubi's I've seen have had any paint
> issues...
> td
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote ...
>> argh.......the paint on my rubicon is starting to just pop off in spots! i
>> had noticed it before the move but it looked like chalky powder sitting on
>> the paint (i thought maybe i had spilled some baking soda on it or
>> something......i use baking soda daily). closer inspection shows flakes of
>> paint laying around with it crumbling (very brittle) all around where the
>> paint is coming up.
>> anybody else having this problem? when it stops raining im going to go buy
>> another digi-cam (last one got stolen during the move) and take some pics.

"Chalking"
It's caused by disintegration of the binder and is usually caused by the choice of pigment or binder.
The spray gun got held too far away from the vehicle so partially dry paint landed.

There is no fix apart from sand to a good base, prime, and repaint. :(

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DougW

Nathan W. Collier

"Thomas W." <obviousThomas@rubicons.com> wrote in message
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> Keep us posted.

the first spot isnt very big. its on the drivers side of the hood, just
above the "C".
http://home.nc.rr.com/hardcorejeep/paint/1.jpg it still concerns me though
because i can see the problem ------ing since the paint around it is
brittle.

the second spot is the size of a quarter, and is dead in the middle of the
top of the hood.
http://home.nc.rr.com/hardcorejeep/paint/2.jpg it concerns me for the same
reasons.


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http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:xVYTa.71571$R92.39689@news2.central.***.net.. .
> "Chalking"
> It's caused by disintegration of the binder and is usually caused by the
choice of pigment or binder.
> The spray gun got held too far away from the vehicle so partially dry
paint landed.
>
> There is no fix apart from sand to a good base, prime, and repaint. :(

should i be concerned about other areas of the vehicle as well that havent
surfaced yet? after they bought the blue rubicon back from me due to paint
issues, they (and me) went over this one "with a fine tooth comb" and found
no issues of concern and now i have this happening.
thanks doug!


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

DougW

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "DougW" wrote ...
>> "Chalking"
>> It's caused by disintegration of the binder and is usually caused by the
>> choice of pigment or binder. The spray gun got held too far away from the
>> vehicle so partially dry paint landed.
>>
>> There is no fix apart from sand to a good base, prime, and repaint. :(
>
> should i be concerned about other areas of the vehicle as well that havent
> surfaced yet? after they bought the blue rubicon back from me due to paint
> issues, they (and me) went over this one "with a fine tooth comb" and found
> no issues of concern and now i have this happening.
> thanks doug!

Hard to say. Usually vehicles are painted with all parts on, then broken
back apart for the assembly line. (that's what they do at the GM plant
here, neat tour too.)

I did loose a spot to birdpoo. That damn bird must have crossbred with
an Alien, went right through the clearcoat. Looks similar to that round
spot in the pic, but pictures don't show paint well at all.

Might be worth while to take your Rubi to a good paint shop and ask
what they think. Either way, with a vehicle that new you shouldn't
be having any paint problems.

--
DougW

Ken Finney

"Thomas W." <obviousThomas@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:3F2057D6.2060308@rubicons.com...
> Must be a South Carolina thing. :( Sorry you're having trouble with the
> paint on the second one. Keep us posted.
>
> Tyler Dirden wrote:
> > FWIW, neither mine, nor any of the Rubi's I've seen have had any paint
> > issues...
> > td
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:6oXTa.285241$_w.11020391@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> >
> >>argh.......the paint on my rubicon is starting to just pop off in spots!
> >
> > i
> >
> >>had noticed it before the move but it looked like chalky powder sitting
on
> >>the paint (i thought maybe i had spilled some baking soda on it or
> >>something......i use baking soda daily). closer inspection shows flakes
> >
> > of
> >
> >>paint laying around with it crumbling (very brittle) all around where
the
> >>paint is coming up.
> >>anybody else having this problem? when it stops raining im going to go
> >
> > buy
> >
> >>another digi-cam (last one got stolen during the move) and take some
pics.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Nathan W. Collier
> >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> >>
>

It may not have been a factory problem. When I worked for a car dealership
years ago, 80% of the vehicles we got had to be run through the body shop
for some sort of touch up before sale. It may be a poor dealer repair.

TJim

I've never seen anything like that. It looks like something is getting on
the paint an dissolving it. It doesn't look like a paint problem or a prep
problem. I would think that if you had a bad batch of paint, you'd see many
more areas of flaking.
JMHO
I'm not a paint expert, nor do I play one on TV...
TJim

"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
news:0ZYTa.266568$nr.11142805@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Thomas W." <obviousThomas@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3F2057D6.2060308@rubicons.com...
> > Keep us posted.
>
> the first spot isnt very big. its on the drivers side of the hood, just
> above the "C".
> http://home.nc.rr.com/hardcorejeep/paint/1.jpg it still concerns me though
> because i can see the problem ------ing since the paint around it is
> brittle.
>
> the second spot is the size of a quarter, and is dead in the middle of the
> top of the hood.
> http://home.nc.rr.com/hardcorejeep/paint/2.jpg it concerns me for the same
> reasons.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>

TJim

I agree with Doug. We aren't going to be able to diagnose this without a
lot of luck. An experienced auto painter should be able to tell you much
more about what is happening and what, if anything, to do about it.
TJim

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:zaZTa.71574$R92.33903@news2.central.***.net.. .
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> > "DougW" wrote ...
> >> "Chalking"
> >> It's caused by disintegration of the binder and is usually caused by
the
> >> choice of pigment or binder. The spray gun got held too far away from
the
> >> vehicle so partially dry paint landed.
> >>
> >> There is no fix apart from sand to a good base, prime, and repaint. :(
> >
> > should i be concerned about other areas of the vehicle as well that
havent
> > surfaced yet? after they bought the blue rubicon back from me due to
paint
> > issues, they (and me) went over this one "with a fine tooth comb" and
found
> > no issues of concern and now i have this happening.
> > thanks doug!
>
> Hard to say. Usually vehicles are painted with all parts on, then broken
> back apart for the assembly line. (that's what they do at the GM plant
> here, neat tour too.)
>
> I did loose a spot to birdpoo. That damn bird must have crossbred with
> an Alien, went right through the clearcoat. Looks similar to that round
> spot in the pic, but pictures don't show paint well at all.
>
> Might be worth while to take your Rubi to a good paint shop and ask
> what they think. Either way, with a vehicle that new you shouldn't
> be having any paint problems.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Jeffrey Leonard

TJim wrote:

> I've never seen anything like that. It looks like something is getting on
> the paint an dissolving it. It doesn't look like a paint problem or a prep
> problem. I would think that if you had a bad batch of paint, you'd see many
> more areas of flaking.
> JMHO
> I'm not a paint expert, nor do I play one on TV...

I think his wife found out about the 'vette and threw battery acid on
his Jeep.