Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
08-28-2003, 01:00 PM
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Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
In article <vksbj4jo6j2hbb@corp.supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>There is a primary and a secondary shoe, the secondary is the forward one.
>The secondary is generally shorter than the primary, which is how you tell
>them apart. The factory may not observe the primary/secondary function, and
>they might very well use all the same shoes, presumably primary only,
>because it is cheaper than trying to keep them sorted.
The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
:0)
I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
>
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>"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi. I recently bought OEM Mopar rear brake shoes. The front shoes
>> have less pad than the previous shoe on there. I guess Mopar doesn't
>> consider this important. Less pad = faster wear and less braking
>> power. This is for a 94 YJ with 10" drums.
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Jeff Strickland <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>There is a primary and a secondary shoe, the secondary is the forward one.
>The secondary is generally shorter than the primary, which is how you tell
>them apart. The factory may not observe the primary/secondary function, and
>they might very well use all the same shoes, presumably primary only,
>because it is cheaper than trying to keep them sorted.
The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
:0)
I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
>
>
>
>
>"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi. I recently bought OEM Mopar rear brake shoes. The front shoes
>> have less pad than the previous shoe on there. I guess Mopar doesn't
>> consider this important. Less pad = faster wear and less braking
>> power. This is for a 94 YJ with 10" drums.
>>
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08-28-2003, 03:58 PM
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Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <vksbj4jo6j2hbb@corp.supernews.com>,
> Jeff Strickland <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >There is a primary and a secondary shoe, the secondary is the forward
one.
> >The secondary is generally shorter than the primary, which is how you
tell
> >them apart. The factory may not observe the primary/secondary function,
and
> >they might very well use all the same shoes, presumably primary only,
> >because it is cheaper than trying to keep them sorted.
>
> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>
> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the
confusion.
>
> :0)
>
> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
>
You could exchange them, or at least open the box from a different vendor,
but I don't think it is very important or they couldn't make the change.
There is a huge safety issue with brakes, and any change in design demands a
sign off by somebody that knows much more about htis sort of thing than you
and I. The reality is that the secondary shoe has very little to do with
stopping while going forward.
08-28-2003, 03:58 PM
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Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> In article <vksbj4jo6j2hbb@corp.supernews.com>,
> Jeff Strickland <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >There is a primary and a secondary shoe, the secondary is the forward
one.
> >The secondary is generally shorter than the primary, which is how you
tell
> >them apart. The factory may not observe the primary/secondary function,
and
> >they might very well use all the same shoes, presumably primary only,
> >because it is cheaper than trying to keep them sorted.
>
> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>
> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the
confusion.
>
> :0)
>
> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
>
You could exchange them, or at least open the box from a different vendor,
but I don't think it is very important or they couldn't make the change.
There is a huge safety issue with brakes, and any change in design demands a
sign off by somebody that knows much more about htis sort of thing than you
and I. The reality is that the secondary shoe has very little to do with
stopping while going forward.
08-29-2003, 03:16 PM
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Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
In article <3F4E4CFD.88DB8CC1@***.net>,
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Peter,
> Take them back. Buy Raybestos or Bendix at any auto parts store.
>There is a very import design in having the lead shoe, the shorter one
>to push and rotate the longer rear shoe up against the anchor. You may
>feel just how that works by braking in reverse then compare that to
>forward braking.
Okay L.W. I am a bit late reading your response. I'm sure they will be
okay since they are 10" shoes, just that the lead shoe doesn't have
as much sole as the older one. :0) I have a feeling Mopar is just
cheaping out here.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
>> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>>
>> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> :0)
>>
>> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
>> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Peter,
> Take them back. Buy Raybestos or Bendix at any auto parts store.
>There is a very import design in having the lead shoe, the shorter one
>to push and rotate the longer rear shoe up against the anchor. You may
>feel just how that works by braking in reverse then compare that to
>forward braking.
Okay L.W. I am a bit late reading your response. I'm sure they will be
okay since they are 10" shoes, just that the lead shoe doesn't have
as much sole as the older one. :0) I have a feeling Mopar is just
cheaping out here.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
>> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>>
>> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> :0)
>>
>> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
>> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
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08-29-2003, 03:16 PM
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Re: Mopar brakes shoes w/ less shoe now?
In article <3F4E4CFD.88DB8CC1@***.net>,
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Peter,
> Take them back. Buy Raybestos or Bendix at any auto parts store.
>There is a very import design in having the lead shoe, the shorter one
>to push and rotate the longer rear shoe up against the anchor. You may
>feel just how that works by braking in reverse then compare that to
>forward braking.
Okay L.W. I am a bit late reading your response. I'm sure they will be
okay since they are 10" shoes, just that the lead shoe doesn't have
as much sole as the older one. :0) I have a feeling Mopar is just
cheaping out here.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
>> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>>
>> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> :0)
>>
>> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
>> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Peter,
> Take them back. Buy Raybestos or Bendix at any auto parts store.
>There is a very import design in having the lead shoe, the shorter one
>to push and rotate the longer rear shoe up against the anchor. You may
>feel just how that works by braking in reverse then compare that to
>forward braking.
Okay L.W. I am a bit late reading your response. I'm sure they will be
okay since they are 10" shoes, just that the lead shoe doesn't have
as much sole as the older one. :0) I have a feeling Mopar is just
cheaping out here.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> The primary has the same pad length as the old primary. The new secondary
>> pad length is at least 1" shorter than the old secondary.
>>
>> The shoes are not the same for primary and secondary. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> :0)
>>
>> I should be okay. I did notice that the RR is in need of an new adjuster
>> kit. I might as well get another adjuster kit for the RL.
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