Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
In that case we are humble and regular in Britain, as we do name our own
accents. See posts further up.
In Germany people also name their own accents, e.g. Bavarian, Swabian,
Frankfurterisch...
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, RickMerrill wrote:
>
> > Nobody "names" their own accent, only that of someone else, yes?
>
> By and large, it is only the extremely humble, the insouciant and the
> pretentious who name their own accents. Most regular folks don't.
>
> DS
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accents. See posts further up.
In Germany people also name their own accents, e.g. Bavarian, Swabian,
Frankfurterisch...
DAS
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, RickMerrill wrote:
>
> > Nobody "names" their own accent, only that of someone else, yes?
>
> By and large, it is only the extremely humble, the insouciant and the
> pretentious who name their own accents. Most regular folks don't.
>
> DS
>
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Yaaguar (in Germany) (Hard to render exactly - maybe we should attach wav
files to these posts...).
Same as the animal (as in English).
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"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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> Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the
way?
> ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3f034a24$0$19598$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com ...
> > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
> > Daimler-Benz...
> >
> > :-)
> > DAS
> > --
> > ---
> > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
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> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:hYFMa.1394$8v5.10698755@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > Day-mler.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> > >
> > > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:bdv71v$2e5$6@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > > :
> > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
> > isn't
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
files to these posts...).
Same as the animal (as in English).
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"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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> Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the
way?
> ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3f034a24$0$19598$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com ...
> > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
> > Daimler-Benz...
> >
> > :-)
> > DAS
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> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:hYFMa.1394$8v5.10698755@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > Day-mler.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> > >
> > > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:bdv71v$2e5$6@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> > > :
> > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
> > isn't
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Quite so.
DAS
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
> mistaken.
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> : Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> : > news:bdvhsv$1113dv$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> : > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> : > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
> the
> : > way?
> : > : ;o)
> : > :
> : > : Earle
> : > :
> : > : "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> : > : news:3f034a24$0$19598$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com ...
> : > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
mean
> : > : > Daimler-Benz...
> : > : >
> : > : > :-)
> : > : > DAS
> : > : > --
> : > : > ---
> : > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> : > : > ---
> : > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > : > news:hYFMa.1394$8v5.10698755@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > : > > Day-mler.
> : > : > >
> : > : > > --
> : > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : > : > >
> : > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
> : > : > > news:bdv71v$2e5$6@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : > > :
> : > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
> (long-i),
> : > : > isn't
> : > : > > it?
> : > : > >
> : > : > >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
> mistaken.
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:3F035254.3060006@comcast.net...
> : Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> : > news:bdvhsv$1113dv$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> : > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> : > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
> the
> : > way?
> : > : ;o)
> : > :
> : > : Earle
> : > :
> : > : "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> : > : news:3f034a24$0$19598$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com ...
> : > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
mean
> : > : > Daimler-Benz...
> : > : >
> : > : > :-)
> : > : > DAS
> : > : > --
> : > : > ---
> : > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> : > : > ---
> : > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > : > news:hYFMa.1394$8v5.10698755@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > : > > Day-mler.
> : > : > >
> : > : > > --
> : > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : > : > >
> : > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
> : > : > > news:bdv71v$2e5$6@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : > > :
> : > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
> (long-i),
> : > : > isn't
> : > : > > it?
> : > : > >
> : > : > >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#124
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Kriseler with the first "r" at the back of the throat (when it's not
silent...)
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"'nuther Bob" <not_really@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:18:10 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:
>
> >Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> >"correct" way to pronounce it.
>
> Don't forget to consider "Daimler Chrysler", where the Chrysler
> is always silent.
>
> > How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the way?
>
> "Jag-u-ler" - just like Winnie-the-Pooh says it.
>
> Bob
>
silent...)
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"'nuther Bob" <not_really@anywhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:18:10 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:
>
> >Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> >"correct" way to pronounce it.
>
> Don't forget to consider "Daimler Chrysler", where the Chrysler
> is always silent.
>
> > How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the way?
>
> "Jag-u-ler" - just like Winnie-the-Pooh says it.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Not necessarily so. American is quite close to Zummerzet (Somerset, SW
England) and is the language many of the early settlers spoke. Thus it has
been said that Shakespeare performed in the US is closer to how it sounded
in his day than when performed in England (especially by the National
Shakespeare Company in clipped, cut-glass accents.. ;-) )
English English has just moved on more since then...after all, nobody to
emulate :-)
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> If the correct way to pronounce words is the way the country of origin
> pronounce it, all Americans speak their language incorrectly! ;-)
>
England) and is the language many of the early settlers spoke. Thus it has
been said that Shakespeare performed in the US is closer to how it sounded
in his day than when performed in England (especially by the National
Shakespeare Company in clipped, cut-glass accents.. ;-) )
English English has just moved on more since then...after all, nobody to
emulate :-)
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"Exit" <exit@nomore.com> wrote in message
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> If the correct way to pronounce words is the way the country of origin
> pronounce it, all Americans speak their language incorrectly! ;-)
>
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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> Well, its "original creation" is open for discussion. Every source I've
read
> says there is no one definitive explanation as to how "Jeep" came to be.
we arent arguing where the trademark came from. you said the manufacturer
invented the word and you are WRONG. all they did was put a trademark on
it.
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> Well, its "original creation" is open for discussion. Every source I've
read
> says there is no one definitive explanation as to how "Jeep" came to be.
we arent arguing where the trademark came from. you said the manufacturer
invented the word and you are WRONG. all they did was put a trademark on
it.
--
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'03 Jeep Rubicon
Jeep and let Jeep
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Re: For Lloyd Parker
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:46:37 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:
>http://www.theonion.com/onion3925/its_not_nice.html
>
>Earle
>
If you care enough, why not send the best..
http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
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>http://www.theonion.com/onion3925/its_not_nice.html
>
>Earle
>
If you care enough, why not send the best..
http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <o0o7gvoq12buqnucardko8qf4ea3sreu93@4ax.com>,
> Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>>lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>
>>>>Jeepers drive a Jeep during activity known as Jeeping. Jeeping can take a
>>>>Jeeper in a Jeep many places, most of them unacceptable to Lloyd.
>>>
>>>Ever hear of a thing called a dictionary?
>>
>>Yes. They list "jeep" in there (note the lower case "j" and all the
>>implications that go with it).
>>
>>Marc
>Mine says a noun only.
From http://www.m-w.com/home.htm:
Main Entry: 2jeep
Function: intransitive verb
Date: 1942
to travel by jeep
Of course, they also list the noun
>And it is a registeted trademark, so you've got to be careful how you use it.
>Like not calling every soda a "Coke" or every copier a "Xerox."
It isn't a trademark. D-C claims it is, but the fact that every dictionary
I've ever looked in has it there in lower case would tend to indicate that
it has reached wide------- use for purposes other than to identify the one
trademarked item. They lost the trademark on it long ago, but they haven't
tried fighting anyone in court for an official ruling.
Marc
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>In article <o0o7gvoq12buqnucardko8qf4ea3sreu93@4ax.com>,
> Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>>lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>
>>>>Jeepers drive a Jeep during activity known as Jeeping. Jeeping can take a
>>>>Jeeper in a Jeep many places, most of them unacceptable to Lloyd.
>>>
>>>Ever hear of a thing called a dictionary?
>>
>>Yes. They list "jeep" in there (note the lower case "j" and all the
>>implications that go with it).
>>
>>Marc
>Mine says a noun only.
From http://www.m-w.com/home.htm:
Main Entry: 2jeep
Function: intransitive verb
Date: 1942
to travel by jeep
Of course, they also list the noun
>And it is a registeted trademark, so you've got to be careful how you use it.
>Like not calling every soda a "Coke" or every copier a "Xerox."
It isn't a trademark. D-C claims it is, but the fact that every dictionary
I've ever looked in has it there in lower case would tend to indicate that
it has reached wide------- use for purposes other than to identify the one
trademarked item. They lost the trademark on it long ago, but they haven't
tried fighting anyone in court for an official ruling.
Marc
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote:
>Marc wrote:
>>
>> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Another oddity: On the "100 Greatest Country Music Songs" on CMT, it
>> >was remarked that only Loretta Lynn could rhyme "hard" and "tired" in a
>> >hit song and make it sound natural (song "Coalminer's Daughter").
>>
>> That would seem natural for any one from the south. "Tired" is pronounced
>> "tard."
>>
>I hope you're not implying that everyone in the south prounces it that
>way - I certainly don't (born and raised in VA) - it's more NC, GA, W
>VA, TN, KY hill or trailer park accent.
You left out MS, LA, TX, OK, AR, and possibly some others.
And yes, I am stating that the Southern Accent (tm) does pronounce it that
way. If you are claiming to be from the south but not pronounce it that
way, then you don't have the Southern Accent (tm).
Marc
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>Marc wrote:
>>
>> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Another oddity: On the "100 Greatest Country Music Songs" on CMT, it
>> >was remarked that only Loretta Lynn could rhyme "hard" and "tired" in a
>> >hit song and make it sound natural (song "Coalminer's Daughter").
>>
>> That would seem natural for any one from the south. "Tired" is pronounced
>> "tard."
>>
>I hope you're not implying that everyone in the south prounces it that
>way - I certainly don't (born and raised in VA) - it's more NC, GA, W
>VA, TN, KY hill or trailer park accent.
You left out MS, LA, TX, OK, AR, and possibly some others.
And yes, I am stating that the Southern Accent (tm) does pronounce it that
way. If you are claiming to be from the south but not pronounce it that
way, then you don't have the Southern Accent (tm).
Marc
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