Re: Jealousy forces self-admitted shut-in to make bluffs he can't backup
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:22:45 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, Cassandra
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
#1172
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:22:45 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, Cassandra
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:22:45 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, Cassandra
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
Incognito <a@b.invalid> wrote:
>L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
>
>[snip]
>
>Really? When/where did they say that, Bill? You wouldn't be LYING
>again, would you?
the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
societies.
--
Bob Officer
COOSN-266-06-01986
Hammer of Thor, Sept 2005
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
That's what the bleeding heart liberal whacko limps would like to think,
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
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>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
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but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
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>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
That's what the bleeding heart liberal whacko limps would like to think,
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:nqo3d35sg5qrnodgvcjpmmto3q6sg8b7uv@4ax.com...
>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
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>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
That's what the bleeding heart liberal whacko limps would like to think,
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:nqo3d35sg5qrnodgvcjpmmto3q6sg8b7uv@4ax.com...
>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:nqo3d35sg5qrnodgvcjpmmto3q6sg8b7uv@4ax.com...
>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
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#1177
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Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
That's what the bleeding heart liberal whacko limps would like to think,
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:nqo3d35sg5qrnodgvcjpmmto3q6sg8b7uv@4ax.com...
>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
but as always you can't point to one fact!!!! You're a total waste, a
liability to us honest tax payers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:nqo3d35sg5qrnodgvcjpmmto3q6sg8b7uv@4ax.com...
>
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The
> Good pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but
> used donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life
> scum, bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to
> follow their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all
> societies.
>
>
> --
--
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:38:50 -0700, Bob Officer wrote:
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
AND
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
-- 30 --
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
AND
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
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#1179
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:38:50 -0700, Bob Officer wrote:
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
AND
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
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> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
AND
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
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#1180
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: PING -- Bill ------; Hi there, -------!
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:38:50 -0700, Bob Officer wrote:
> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
AND
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
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> the moral majority is neither moral, nor are they a majority. The Good
> pastor Ted Hagard is not only a drug user (meth addiction), but used
> donated funds to pay male prostitutes for their services.
>
> Barnes, Folley, Fallwell, Baker and the rest are really low life scum,
> bottom feeding off the majority of stupid people dumb enough to follow
> their lies. Pastors and religious leaders are Leeches on all societies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical
preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is
the founder and disgraced former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches;
and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1]
until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership
positions after allegations of homosexual --- and drug abuse were made by
whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard
denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he
acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of
methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list
of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive
counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those
ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3]
Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help
to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
Story Highlights
o Haggard agrees to resign as pastor of New Life Church
o Denver police will look into "crimes that may have been committed"
o White House downplays Rev. Ted Haggard's influence
o Evangelist admits he called male escort to buy drugs and get a massage
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed Saturday
to resign as leader of the megachurch he started in his basement more than
20 years ago after its independent investigative board said he was guilty
of "sexually immoral conduct."
On Friday, Haggard admitted he had received a massage from a Denver man
who claimed the prominent pastor had paid him for --- over three years.
Haggard also admitted he had bought methamphetamine.
Haggard, in an interview with CNN affiliate KUSA, denied having --- with
Mike Jones and said he did not use the drug and threw it away.
After the allegations were made public, Haggard resigned as president of
the influential National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella group
representing more than 45,000 churches with 30 million members.
He also temporarily stepped aside as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life
Church. (Parishioners stand by Haggard)
But on Saturday overseers of the church recommended he be permanently
removed.
"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our
deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a
statement from the church said.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven
without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."
Haggard, 50, and his wife were informed of the decision, the statement
said, and "they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a
new pastor for New Life Church should be selected according to the rules
of replacement in the bylaws."
The statement said "a letter of explanation and apology" from Haggard and
"a word of encouragement" from his wife, Gayle, would be read at Sunday
morning services.
The couple has five children.
The church's statement said the investigation would continue to determine
the extent of Haggard's misconduct.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the New Life Church until a permanent
replacement for Haggard is chosen, something that should happen by the end
of the year, the statement said.
"Please continue to pray for Pastor Ted and his family, and let's all
continue to stand strong together for the kingdom of God," Parsley's note
to church members said. "We will get through this together. Remember, New
Life Church has never been a man, a building or anything else -- we are a
family."
Although Haggard initially denied even knowing Jones, the pastor admitted
on camera Friday to a Denver CNN affiliate that he sought a massage from
him. Haggard also admitted buying methamphetamine but said he did not use
it.
"I was buying it for me, but I never used it," said Haggard, sitting in
the driver's seat of a car with his wife, Gayle, at his side during an
impromptu interview with KUSA-TV.
"I never kept it very long because it was wrong. I was tempted. I bought
it. But I never used it." Haggard also acknowledged contacting Jones but
has denied Jones' accusation that the two men regularly had --- over three
years. (Watch how the scandal has quickly unfolded -- 3:35 Video)
Haggard's admissions resonated among America's evangelicals and Christian
leaders.
Haggard was one of a group of religious leaders who regularly participated
in conference calls with White House aides, Time magazine reported.
On Friday, the White House sought to downplay Haggard's influence within
the administration.
Spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters Friday that it was inaccurate to
portray him as being close to the White House, insisting Haggard was only
an occasional participant in weekly conference calls between West Wing
staff and leading evangelicals.
"He has been on a couple of calls," Fratto said. "He's been to the White
House one or two times."
Last year, Time -- citing Haggard's White House access -- put him on its
list of the nation's 25 most influential evangelicals. (Time.com
articleexternal link)
Many religious leaders had rallied to the pastor's defense when the
allegations broke earlier in the week. Dobson: He's still my friend
But Focus on the Family founder James Dobson -- who had castigated the
media Thursday for reporting Jones' allegations -- issued a statement
Friday saying he was "heartsick" upon learning of Haggard's admissions.
"The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to
us and to millions of others," Dobson said.
"He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove
accurate," he continued. "Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or
heterosexual, has serious consequences."
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a Washington-based
conservative policy group, said he was "saddened to learn of these
allegations of reprehensible behavior."
"In his position as a leader of the evangelical community, this personal
tragedy has public ramifications, so we urge that a full accounting of the
facts be swift and complete," he said in a statement.
In an interview Friday with CNN, Jones said he went public with his
allegations because of Haggard's support for a state constitutional
amendment banning same---- marriage that is on the ballot next week in
Colorado.
"For someone who is up there preaching that marriage should only be
between a man and a woman, and he's going behind his wife's back and
seeing a gay man for --- -- I felt like I owed it to the gay community to
expose the hypocrisy," Jones said.( Watch Jones describe how he and
Haggard "hooked up" -- 7:26 Video) Unclear polygraph test
Jones' account of events also came under scrutiny Friday after he
voluntarily took a polygraph test for Denver's KHOW radio, where he
originally made his allegations Wednesday.
The polygraph examiner concluded Jones showed some "deception."
However, the examiner said because Jones was exhausted at the time the
test was administered it would need to be redone after he slept and ate to
get more reliable results.
Jones told CNN that the part of the test he failed was on the question of
whether he and Haggard had ---. "I don't understand why I did fail the
part about when they asked me if I had --- with Ted Haggard," he said.
"That's the reason he contacted me to begin with." (Watch Jones' take on
Haggard's denial -- 1:20)
Haggard told KUSA that he was "grateful that [Jones] failed the polygraph
test."
The Denver Police Department issued a statement saying it was "watching
this situation unfold" and planned "on reaching out to the involved
parties for information on crimes that may have been committed in Denver."
Haggard on Friday said a Denver hotel where he was staying referred him to
Jones for a massage, and Jones "told him about" the methamphetamine.
(Watch Haggard's response to whether he knows gay men in Denver -- 2:07
Video)
He did not identify the hotel. Jones told CNN he did not sell
methamphetamine to Haggard, but he said he gave Haggard a contact to
obtain the drug and saw him use it on multiple occasions. He also said he
was "not listed with any concierge" at a Denver hotel.
Asked about Haggard's continued denials of a sexual relationship, Jones
noted that Haggard had denied even knowing him until he released voice
mails he said he had kept from Haggard.
"The more denial he gives, the messier he looks," Jones said.
An expert hired by KUSA concluded the voice on the messages was probably
Haggard, and a more detailed analysis was under way. The pastor admitted
Friday that he did call Jones "to buy some meth, but I threw it away."
(Watch what Haggard said about the drugs he bought -- 1:59)
Jones has said he met Haggard three years ago when the pastor answered his
escort ad, pretending to be a man from Kansas City named "Art." He said
their sexual encounters continued monthly until August.
Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
Jones, who has said he no longer works as a prostitute, told CNN he only
learned Art's identity several months ago, when he recognized Haggard on
TV.
"You can't put yourself in the position he was in and want respect and
people to follow your words when you're actually doing the opposite behind
their backs," Jones said.
CNN's Delia Gallagher contributed to this report.
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