RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
09-25-2007, 10:55 AM
#151
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Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
Quite, the True-Trac is a gear driven gizmo, that doesn't load the axles on
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-25-2007, 10:55 AM
#152
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Posts: n/a
Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
Quite, the True-Trac is a gear driven gizmo, that doesn't load the axles on
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-25-2007, 10:55 AM
#153
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Posts: n/a
Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
Quite, the True-Trac is a gear driven gizmo, that doesn't load the axles on
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
turns or unless it is driven by the drive shaft. The Trac-Loc is a more
conventional design, that does do this and does interfere with steering,
front or back. I would recommend the Trac-Loc for light duty use because it
is cheap and won't break stuff, because it doesn't really ever lock. The
down side is increased frequency of differential oil changes. If you want
more locking behavior you can stick an extra clutch disc in it.
Cheers,
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:sMOdnZ6BI5zihmTbnZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Rear is stock Trac Loc, front is Detroit Tru-Trac. The front Tru Trac is
> quite transparent on the street in 2wd.
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fd9ekd$sok$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > Which LSD do you have? Just from looking at the front axle design, a
> > Trac-Loc would seem to have some effect on slippery winter roads. I
know
> > they can make for lots of fun on the rear.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:P8adncDK-rQrrWXbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Not the case, the proof is in my garage...
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fd9987$6l1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> > It looks as if Tracie would need to get locking hubs for a LS on the
> > front
> >> > not to affect the steering. That is my understanding of how the
newer
> > TJs
> >> > are put together anyway. That would add a few hundred.
> >> >
> >> > Advice for Jeep shoppers--Stay away from any Jeep with the 3.07 axle
> >> > ratio.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
09-28-2010, 01:21 AM
#154
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Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
What size of engine is in it? 4.1 was always cool to run but harder on gas.Of late the 3.73 has grabbed some interest because it is a good size for about any car no matter what it it.I like my 32/10 BFG s on my Scout with 3.73s under it I do alot of stuff with it.That 4.1 will get to the top fast but it gets a top end howl .
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