Re: Am I getting ripped off?
 

I had a MAACO job done once here in El Paso. I could have done better with a
roller. Course they vary from franchise to franchise. Look at some of their
work out in their parking lot. I should have done that here because when I
was picking up my van, there were people outside arguing with the manager
over their crap jobs. Again, you get what you pay for. I think my van was
about $400. It might be a good idea to do the prep work yourself - or most
of it. That's the most important thing with any paint job, and they do skimp
on that.


"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0307191841540.1909-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>
> So anyway...
>
> I hauled my new steel `79 CJ-5 tub (off-frame), plus assorted fenders,
> hinges, hood, gate, grill and so on to the closest Maaco for paint. The
> front-of-shop guy was a little scary, not only did he talk like a used car
> salesman, he had some sort of problem with his eyes so that no matter how
> he looked at you the other eye was always looking away. Doesn't give you
> a warm, trusting feeling.
>
> So he hemmed and hawed over how many parts there were, how it was going to
> take forever in shop time, and on and on. Bottomline: $1600. Yowch. So
> we dickered and argued and so on and came down to $1238, out the door,
> tax, fees, materials (duPont two-part catalysed color with clear coat, and
> undercoating the bottom of the tub) -- minus quite a few small parts I'd
> wanted painted at the same time.
>
> I was guessing $400 or so for materials, so perhaps two days of shop time
> at $400 isn't out of line for Connecticut. But still, I'm feeling itchy.
>
> Anyone? Is this an acceptable deal, or should I haul my tin out of there
> before they can get there grubby mitts on it?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Am I getting ripped off?
 

I had a friend in high school that had a '74 Trans Am. He went to Earl
Scheib for a paint job. When he got it back, the first thing I noticed
was that the color was off from stock, but as I got closer, I realized
that they had painted right over the 'screaming chicken' on the hood. A
perfect outline visible. You could trip over the lumps it caused in the
paint. Pretty sure they didn't sand a thing.

Earle Horton wrote:
> To be fair to these guys, prep work is labor intensive and the reason people
> go to Maaco in the first place is that they don't want to pay a lot. It is
> not so much that Maaco and the other budget shops skimp, but rather that you
> get what you pay for.
>
> If you are going to do your own prep, which I recommend too, use a high
> quality (i.e. expensive) primer recommended by the folks you intend to have
> paint your car, and let it dry for a few days. This will minimize the
> chances of lifting. Polyurethane will lift a cheap primer right off the
> metal.
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:lsTSa.14812$Mc.1109680@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
>
>>I had a MAACO job done once here in El Paso. I could have done better with
>
> a
>
>>roller. Course they vary from franchise to franchise. Look at some of
>
> their
>
>>work out in their parking lot. I should have done that here because when I
>>was picking up my van, there were people outside arguing with the manager
>>over their crap jobs. Again, you get what you pay for. I think my van was
>>about $400. It might be a good idea to do the prep work yourself - or most
>>of it. That's the most important thing with any paint job, and they do
>
> skimp
>
>>on that.
>>
>>
>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
>>news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0307191841540.1909-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>>
>>>So anyway...
>>>
>>>I hauled my new steel `79 CJ-5 tub (off-frame), plus assorted fenders,
>>>hinges, hood, gate, grill and so on to the closest Maaco for paint. The
>>>front-of-shop guy was a little scary, not only did he talk like a used
>>
> car
>
>>>salesman, he had some sort of problem with his eyes so that no matter
>>
> how
>
>>>he looked at you the other eye was always looking away. Doesn't give
>>
> you
>
>>>a warm, trusting feeling.
>>>
>>>So he hemmed and hawed over how many parts there were, how it was going
>>
> to
>
>>>take forever in shop time, and on and on. Bottomline: $1600. Yowch.
>>
> So
>
>>>we dickered and argued and so on and came down to $1238, out the door,
>>>tax, fees, materials (duPont two-part catalysed color with clear coat,
>>
> and
>
>>>undercoating the bottom of the tub) -- minus quite a few small parts I'd
>>>wanted painted at the same time.
>>>
>>>I was guessing $400 or so for materials, so perhaps two days of shop
>>
> time
>
>>>at $400 isn't out of line for Connecticut. But still, I'm feeling
>>
> itchy.
>
>>>Anyone? Is this an acceptable deal, or should I haul my tin out of
>>
> there
>
>>>before they can get there grubby mitts on it?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Am I getting ripped off?
 

Only know two MAACO jobs, and in both the car owner wanted a paint
job but didn't plan to keep the car too many more years. Both of
them went to the MAACO place first and both places were willing to
tell them how to get a better paint job by doing their own
prep work in advance of the paint. Both jobs looked pretty good,
one had a bit of orange peel, which the shop took care of. Actually
both jobs had a smoother surface than the factory inferno red clearcoat
on the missus 95 ZJ.

Earle Horton wrote:

> To be fair to these guys, prep work is labor intensive and the reason people
> go to Maaco in the first place is that they don't want to pay a lot. It is
> not so much that Maaco and the other budget shops skimp, but rather that you
> get what you pay for.
>
> If you are going to do your own prep, which I recommend too, use a high
> quality (i.e. expensive) primer recommended by the folks you intend to have
> paint your car, and let it dry for a few days. This will minimize the
> chances of lifting. Polyurethane will lift a cheap primer right off the
> metal.
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:lsTSa.14812$Mc.1109680@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
>> I had a MAACO job done once here in El Paso. I could have done better with
> a
>> roller. Course they vary from franchise to franchise. Look at some of
> their
>> work out in their parking lot. I should have done that here because when I
>> was picking up my van, there were people outside arguing with the manager
>> over their crap jobs. Again, you get what you pay for. I think my van was
>> about $400. It might be a good idea to do the prep work yourself - or most
>> of it. That's the most important thing with any paint job, and they do
> skimp
>> on that.
>>
>>
>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0307191841540.1909-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>> >
>> > So anyway...
>> >
>> > I hauled my new steel `79 CJ-5 tub (off-frame), plus assorted fenders,
>> > hinges, hood, gate, grill and so on to the closest Maaco for paint. The
>> > front-of-shop guy was a little scary, not only did he talk like a used
> car
>> > salesman, he had some sort of problem with his eyes so that no matter
> how
>> > he looked at you the other eye was always looking away. Doesn't give
> you
>> > a warm, trusting feeling.
>> >
>> > So he hemmed and hawed over how many parts there were, how it was going
> to
>> > take forever in shop time, and on and on. Bottomline: $1600. Yowch.
> So
>> > we dickered and argued and so on and came down to $1238, out the door,
>> > tax, fees, materials (duPont two-part catalysed color with clear coat,
> and
>> > undercoating the bottom of the tub) -- minus quite a few small parts I'd
>> > wanted painted at the same time.
>> >
>> > I was guessing $400 or so for materials, so perhaps two days of shop
> time
>> > at $400 isn't out of line for Connecticut. But still, I'm feeling
> itchy.
>> >
>> > Anyone? Is this an acceptable deal, or should I haul my tin out of
> there
>> > before they can get there grubby mitts on it?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Am I getting ripped off?
 

heh! :)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Note: Earl Scheib is no relation to me. ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Thomas W." <obviousThomas@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3F1C1651.9070303@rubicons.com...
>
>>I had a friend in high school that had a '74 Trans Am. He went to Earl
>>Scheib for a paint job. When he got it back, the first thing I noticed
>>was that the color was off from stock, but as I got closer, I realized
>>that they had painted right over the 'screaming chicken' on the hood. A
>>perfect outline visible. You could trip over the lumps it caused in the
>>paint. Pretty sure they didn't sand a thing.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>To be fair to these guys, prep work is labor intensive and the reason
>>
> people
>
>>>go to Maaco in the first place is that they don't want to pay a lot. It
>>
> is
>
>>>not so much that Maaco and the other budget shops skimp, but rather that
>>
> you
>
>>>get what you pay for.
>>>
>>>If you are going to do your own prep, which I recommend too, use a high
>>>quality (i.e. expensive) primer recommended by the folks you intend to
>>
> have
>
>>>paint your car, and let it dry for a few days. This will minimize the
>>>chances of lifting. Polyurethane will lift a cheap primer right off the
>>>metal.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:lsTSa.14812$Mc.1109680@newsread1.prod.itd. earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had a MAACO job done once here in El Paso. I could have done better
>>>
> with
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>roller. Course they vary from franchise to franchise. Look at some of
>>>
>>>their
>>>
>>>
>>>>work out in their parking lot. I should have done that here because when
>>>
> I
>
>>>>was picking up my van, there were people outside arguing with the
>>>
> manager
>
>>>>over their crap jobs. Again, you get what you pay for. I think my van
>>>
> was
>
>>>>about $400. It might be a good idea to do the prep work yourself - or
>>>
> most
>
>>>>of it. That's the most important thing with any paint job, and they do
>>>
>>>skimp
>>>
>>>
>>>>on that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0307191841540.1909-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So anyway...
>>>>>
>>>>>I hauled my new steel `79 CJ-5 tub (off-frame), plus assorted fenders,
>>>>>hinges, hood, gate, grill and so on to the closest Maaco for paint.
>>>>
> The
>
>>>>>front-of-shop guy was a little scary, not only did he talk like a used
>>>>
>>>car
>>>
>>>
>>>>>salesman, he had some sort of problem with his eyes so that no matter
>>>>
>>>how
>>>
>>>
>>>>>he looked at you the other eye was always looking away. Doesn't give
>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a warm, trusting feeling.
>>>>>
>>>>>So he hemmed and hawed over how many parts there were, how it was going
>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>take forever in shop time, and on and on. Bottomline: $1600. Yowch.
>>>>
>>>So
>>>
>>>
>>>>>we dickered and argued and so on and came down to $1238, out the door,
>>>>>tax, fees, materials (duPont two-part catalysed color with clear coat,
>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>undercoating the bottom of the tub) -- minus quite a few small parts
>>>>
> I'd
>
>>>>>wanted painted at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was guessing $400 or so for materials, so perhaps two days of shop
>>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>
>>>>>at $400 isn't out of line for Connecticut. But still, I'm feeling
>>>>
>>>itchy.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Anyone? Is this an acceptable deal, or should I haul my tin out of
>>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>before they can get there grubby mitts on it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
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