Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens
I will let everyone know what I find out
Again, your help has been very much appreciated
Nadi
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
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Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
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> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nelkhour wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the booster cable first and see what happens.
>
> I will let everyone know what I find out.
> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
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> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Pix for the Crankshaft Sensor location:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Pix for the Crankshaft Sensor location:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Pix for the Crankshaft Sensor location:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
Note: Sometimes the sensor is on the passenger side but on this model it was
the driver's side. If your is on the passenger side I am sure someone will
send you a link to those pix
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439AE4C9.98DADD25@sympatico.ca...
> The 'far' more common CPS failure on those engines is the 'Crankshaft
> Position Sensor'. The cam sensor seldom fails on the early 4.0's.
>
> The CPS plug and socket just get dirty. You can clean them with a spray
> contact cleaner that electronic shops sell or even use WD40. WD40 is a
> good electrical cleaner and water displacer.
>
> The plug and socket for the CPS are located at the back of the intake
> manifold with the CPS at the top corner of the bell housing back there.
>
> While you are cleaning plugs and sockets, I recommend you do the ones on
> the throttle body too. They all can benefit from a clean. I use
> dielectric grease on the plug seal skirts when putting them back
> together. The grease is sometimes sold as spark plug boot protector.
> It is the same stuff you put in plug boots so they don't stick.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone again. Thanks DougW for the website and links to the
>> pictures for the camshaft position sensor. It looks like the 92 is setup
>> in a similar fashion to the 93 ZJ, where the distributor would have to
>> come out. I am going to bypass the ground to the firewall with the
>> booster cable first and see what happens.
>>
>> I will let everyone know what I find out.
>> Again, your help has been very much appreciated.
>>
>> Nadim
>>
>> --
>> nelkhour
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>>
>> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
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