Michael Stevens

In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix - but
is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle looks
like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with the
hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite right
here.


"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday 09
> October 2003 10:08 pm:
>
> > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on my
> > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came today
> > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
liquid
> > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke it
> > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
missing?
> > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> >
>
> Michael,
>
> I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
bit.
> I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
the
> tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to the
> bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> crack (first hand experience there).
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael Stevens

In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix - but
is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle looks
like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with the
hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite right
here.


"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday 09
> October 2003 10:08 pm:
>
> > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on my
> > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came today
> > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
liquid
> > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke it
> > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
missing?
> > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> >
>
> Michael,
>
> I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
bit.
> I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
the
> tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to the
> bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> crack (first hand experience there).
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Michael Stevens

In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix - but
is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle looks
like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with the
hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite right
here.


"Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday 09
> October 2003 10:08 pm:
>
> > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on my
> > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came today
> > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
liquid
> > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke it
> > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
missing?
> > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> >
>
> Michael,
>
> I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
bit.
> I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
the
> tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to the
> bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> crack (first hand experience there).
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

Gerald G. McGeorge

I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.

If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
elsewhere.

Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO. He's
the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
(970) 247-5043.


"Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
but
> is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
> this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
looks
> like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
> the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
> for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
the
> hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
right
> here.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
09
> > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> >
> > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
my
> > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
today
> > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> liquid
> > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
it
> > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> missing?
> > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> bit.
> > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
> the
> > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
the
> > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> > crack (first hand experience there).
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
1891
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.

If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
elsewhere.

Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO. He's
the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
(970) 247-5043.


"Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
but
> is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
> this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
looks
> like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
> the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
> for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
the
> hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
right
> here.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
09
> > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> >
> > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
my
> > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
today
> > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> liquid
> > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
it
> > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> missing?
> > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> bit.
> > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
> the
> > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
the
> > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> > crack (first hand experience there).
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
1891
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.

If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
elsewhere.

Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO. He's
the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
(970) 247-5043.


"Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
but
> is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th and
> this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
looks
> like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole to
> the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight fit
> for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
the
> hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
right
> here.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
09
> > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> >
> > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
my
> > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
today
> > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> liquid
> > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
it
> > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> missing?
> > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> bit.
> > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and find
> the
> > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
the
> > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it may
> > crack (first hand experience there).
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
1891
>
>

Michael Stevens

Yes indeed - the replacement radiator overflow bottle from 4WD hardware
($29.95!) comes WITHOUT the downspout! I called them and they said use the
bits from your OLD bottle. Unfortunately I do not have an old bottle and
that is why I bought a new one.

Anyway, poking the hose in the top of the bottle and letting the end lay on
the bottom of the tank will do just as well I suppose.

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vogk0id04asvbb@corp.supernews.com...
> I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.
>
> If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
> replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
> clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
> restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
> elsewhere.
>
> Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
> dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
> source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO.
He's
> the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
> (970) 247-5043.
>
>
> "Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
> but
> > is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th
and
> > this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
> looks
> > like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole
to
> > the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight
fit
> > for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
> the
> > hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
> right
> > here.
> >
> >
> > "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
> 09
> > > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> > >
> > > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
> my
> > > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
> today
> > > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> > liquid
> > > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
> it
> > > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> > missing?
> > > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> > bit.
> > > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and
find
> > the
> > > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
> the
> > > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it
may
> > > crack (first hand experience there).
> > > --
> > > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is
to
> > > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
> 1891
> >
> >
>
>

Michael Stevens

Yes indeed - the replacement radiator overflow bottle from 4WD hardware
($29.95!) comes WITHOUT the downspout! I called them and they said use the
bits from your OLD bottle. Unfortunately I do not have an old bottle and
that is why I bought a new one.

Anyway, poking the hose in the top of the bottle and letting the end lay on
the bottom of the tank will do just as well I suppose.

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vogk0id04asvbb@corp.supernews.com...
> I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.
>
> If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
> replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
> clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
> restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
> elsewhere.
>
> Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
> dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
> source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO.
He's
> the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
> (970) 247-5043.
>
>
> "Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
> but
> > is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th
and
> > this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
> looks
> > like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole
to
> > the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight
fit
> > for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
> the
> > hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
> right
> > here.
> >
> >
> > "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
> 09
> > > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> > >
> > > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
> my
> > > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
> today
> > > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> > liquid
> > > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
> it
> > > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> > missing?
> > > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> > bit.
> > > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and
find
> > the
> > > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
> the
> > > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it
may
> > > crack (first hand experience there).
> > > --
> > > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is
to
> > > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
> 1891
> >
> >
>
>

Michael Stevens

Yes indeed - the replacement radiator overflow bottle from 4WD hardware
($29.95!) comes WITHOUT the downspout! I called them and they said use the
bits from your OLD bottle. Unfortunately I do not have an old bottle and
that is why I bought a new one.

Anyway, poking the hose in the top of the bottle and letting the end lay on
the bottom of the tank will do just as well I suppose.

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vogk0id04asvbb@corp.supernews.com...
> I'd surmise from your description the internal hose is missing.
>
> If you got this from 4WD Hardware I'd only caution that much of their
> replacement parts inventory is being sourced from overseas now and is
> clearly inferior to what they used to sell. I noticed this when I was
> restoring my CJ last year, many items had to be sent back and sourced
> elsewhere.
>
> Much as it might pain you to do, check with your local Jeep dealers parts
> dept. a lot of original, NOS items are still available. If you need a
> source, check with Jeff Blackwell at Pat Murphy Motors in Durango, CO.
He's
> the parts manager and an old Jeep enthusiast. He helped me a great deal.
> (970) 247-5043.
>
>
> "Michael Stevens" <michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:f2Yhb.6758$av5.3523@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > In my original post I said this is what I had done as a temporary fix -
> but
> > is it the right way?. The hole in bottle top size was a meager 3/16th
and
> > this is too small to fit the radiator standard 5/16th hose. The bottle
> looks
> > like it was made to take a rigid downspout to reach from above the hole
to
> > the bottom - the hole even has an expansion slit in it to make a tight
fit
> > for a rigid tube. Seems a funny design to poke the tube in and what with
> the
> > hole being smaller than radiator overflow tube. Something is not quite
> right
> > here.
> >
> >
> > "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:ByMhb.6917$dn6.555@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > > Michael Stevens (michaelhowardstevens@earthlink.net) wrote on Thursday
> 09
> > > October 2003 10:08 pm:
> > >
> > > > I have just replaced a makeshift generic radiator overflow bottle on
> my
> > > > CJ5 with an "original" one from 4WD Hardware. The new bottle came
> today
> > > > and has a top opening - no down-spout to take the intake tube below
> > liquid
> > > > level. The opening is 3/16 diameter. Should I use 3/16 tube and poke
> it
> > > > through this hole to the bottom of the bottle or is there a part
> > missing?
> > > > If I do use 3/16th hose it will not attach to my radiator that takes
> > > > 5/16th tubing. I'm confused.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > I bought fuel line that would just fit inside after trimming the tip a
> > bit.
> > > I -think- it was 3/8ths. Take the overflow to the parts store and
find
> > the
> > > tightest fit. I then spent about ten minutes or so working it down to
> the
> > > bottom. Be careful that you don't hold it by the bolt flaps, as it
may
> > > crack (first hand experience there).
> > > --
> > > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is
to
> > > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer,
> 1891
> >
> >
>
>