Quik Disconnects
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Re: Quik Disconnects
I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw into
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
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Re: Quik Disconnects
I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw into
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
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Re: Quik Disconnects
I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw into
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected. Without
any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the front
tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also be
sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like the
ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
much lift.
in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
> Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar link
> up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt them,
> you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out of
> the way.
>
> Jerry
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Your JKS's disco pins are falling out??? Sounds like they're probably be
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Your JKS's disco pins are falling out??? Sounds like they're probably be
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
Guest
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Your JKS's disco pins are falling out??? Sounds like they're probably be
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
Guest
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Your JKS's disco pins are falling out??? Sounds like they're probably be
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
knocked out by the tires. Did you mount the posts too low on the frame so
the tires are pushing them out? If the JKS is like the Tera that JKS
copied, the posts must be mounted as close to the very top of the frame as
possible so they have adequate clearance away from the tires or the tires
will push the pins out.
Jerry
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"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:BCA4BD6A.A30E%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> I like my JKS disconnects. They do come with posts that you can screw
into
> the frame to hold the sway bar up out of the way when disconnected.
Without
> any lift (03 Rubicon), I get a lot of rubbing on the sway bar from the
front
> tires, and the posts that come with JKS just don't hold very well. Also
be
> sure to buy some extra pins - they do fall off. I got some exactly like
the
> ones that came with my disconnects from the local hardware store. In any
> case, you should have something to tie up the sway bar when you are on the
> trail just in case - you don't want the sway bar hanging if you don't have
> much lift.
>
> in article ERbfc.10477$Rz3.6099@fed1read05, Jerry Bransford at
> jerrypb@mecox.net wrote on 4/14/04 9:25 AM:
>
> > Mike, the benefit to a disco like Tera's (and now JKS's) is that they
> > provide a method to quickly secure the disconnected swaybar and swaybar
link
> > up and out of the way. When you keep the stock links and just unbolt
them,
> > you have to use bungee cords or zip-ties to hold the swaybar up and out
of
> > the way.
> >
> > Jerry
>
Guest
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Chad, I tried that link and it doesn't open. I'd like to see if it will
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nhbfc.92854$4B1.41271@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nhbfc.92854$4B1.41271@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Chad, I tried that link and it doesn't open. I'd like to see if it will
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nhbfc.92854$4B1.41271@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nhbfc.92854$4B1.41271@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
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Re: Quik Disconnects
Chad, I tried that link and it doesn't open. I'd like to see if it will
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nhbfc.92854$4B1.41271@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
work for my '00 TJ.
Tony
"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Don't spend the $. Here's a link to an XJ with quick disco's on a budget.
> Work the same for your TJ. When I did this for my TJ, it took about $5.
I
> keep some plastic zip ties and just tie the swaybars up and out of the way
> when I disconnect them.
>
> http://hookedonjeeps.rockcrawler.com...%20Discos.html
>
> just my $0.02
>
> Chad
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ His
> 99 WJ Hers
>
> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:v4Wec.26737$kc2.376379@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > One of my next purchases is gonna be quick disconnects..... Are quick
> > disconnects... all the same... some better for some reason....
> > What's the deal?? opinions please
> >
> >
>
>
