Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
 

What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general?


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover
> & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to
> get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success.
> If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as:
>
> X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives
>
> You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt
> head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts
> on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin
> Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx
> bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with
> torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size
> but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head.
> I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their
> own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the
> torx bit from Harley
>
> L8r - Jersey
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> > the interior is) are where it sucks!
> >
> > Matt
>
>
>

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

I have only gotten them out two ways.

One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
'loctite'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt wrote:
>
> I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> the interior is) are where it sucks!
>
> Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

I have only gotten them out two ways.

One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
'loctite'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt wrote:
>
> I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> the interior is) are where it sucks!
>
> Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

I have only gotten them out two ways.

One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
'loctite'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt wrote:
>
> I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> the interior is) are where it sucks!
>
> Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

I have only gotten them out two ways.

One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
'loctite'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Matt wrote:
>
> I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> the interior is) are where it sucks!
>
> Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I have only gotten them out two ways.
>
> One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
> replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
> 'loctite'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> > the interior is) are where it sucks!
> >
> > Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca...
> I have only gotten them out two ways.
>
> One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
> replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
> 'loctite'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> > the interior is) are where it sucks!
> >
> > Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca...
> I have only gotten them out two ways.
>
> One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
> replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
> 'loctite'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> > the interior is) are where it sucks!
> >
> > Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

punching them through would mean you'd need to retap the hole, no??


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:409E2F8F.A66EAD89@sympatico.ca...
> I have only gotten them out two ways.
>
> One is to drill the heads out and punch them through into the tub then
> replace them and the other is to heat them with a torch to melt the
> 'loctite'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Matt wrote:
> >
> > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses.
> > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned
> > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on
> > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not
> > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to
> > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how
> > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work
> > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn
> > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I
> > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them
> > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or
> > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its
> > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on
> > the interior is) are where it sucks!
> >
> > Matt

Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
 

Thanks for all the advice, guys! My Torx bits are pretty
good...they're Lisle, made in USA. I'll run out today and look for a
Craftsman impact socket, and take the thing to Pep Boys so they can
mess with it if that doesn't work out. I did see the similar thread on
this from a few days back, too... I tried the methods on there short
of the torch, and will get back at it now that my patience and temper
have returned!

Matt