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Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I recently put mirror relo brackets on my '00 TJ and all but one of the
screws came out easily. The last stripped just like yours. I drilled about 5/8" into the center of the screw with a 3/16" drill (you'll see why in a second), then with a 5/16" drill in the same hole drilled until the screw head came off (they are 5/16 screws, so this size drill will pop the head off when iit drills deep enough to get through the head). That left the screw body in the hole, with about 3/8" of a 3/16" hole left in it (see why I did that one first?). I then used an ez-out, and backed the screw right out. The screw itself was loose, it was the head that was binding (from the paint, I'd guess) In the fall when I remove the brackets I'll replace the screws with Allen-head stainless screws from my local hardware store. "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I recently put mirror relo brackets on my '00 TJ and all but one of the
screws came out easily. The last stripped just like yours. I drilled about 5/8" into the center of the screw with a 3/16" drill (you'll see why in a second), then with a 5/16" drill in the same hole drilled until the screw head came off (they are 5/16 screws, so this size drill will pop the head off when iit drills deep enough to get through the head). That left the screw body in the hole, with about 3/8" of a 3/16" hole left in it (see why I did that one first?). I then used an ez-out, and backed the screw right out. The screw itself was loose, it was the head that was binding (from the paint, I'd guess) In the fall when I remove the brackets I'll replace the screws with Allen-head stainless screws from my local hardware store. "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Quick Torx rant..any suggestions?
I recently put mirror relo brackets on my '00 TJ and all but one of the
screws came out easily. The last stripped just like yours. I drilled about 5/8" into the center of the screw with a 3/16" drill (you'll see why in a second), then with a 5/16" drill in the same hole drilled until the screw head came off (they are 5/16 screws, so this size drill will pop the head off when iit drills deep enough to get through the head). That left the screw body in the hole, with about 3/8" of a 3/16" hole left in it (see why I did that one first?). I then used an ez-out, and backed the screw right out. The screw itself was loose, it was the head that was binding (from the paint, I'd guess) In the fall when I remove the brackets I'll replace the screws with Allen-head stainless screws from my local hardware store. "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the torx bit from Harley L8r - Jersey "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the torx bit from Harley L8r - Jersey "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the torx bit from Harley L8r - Jersey "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the torx bit from Harley L8r - Jersey "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > Matt |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general?
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > torx bit from Harley > > L8r - Jersey > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general?
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > torx bit from Harley > > L8r - Jersey > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt > > > |
Re: Check the Size of bit - Was (Torx rant..any suggestions?)
What will the adhesive dissolver do the the paint in general?
"Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:TYSdnS5l8_QriQPdRVn-tA@comcast.com... > > > A little known fact is that Loctite makes a adhesive remover > & you can put this stuff on & it will soak down the threads to > get the job done. I've used this stuff in work with some success. > If you go to the Loctite page it's advertised as: > > X-NMS® CleanUp Solvent for Instant Adhesives > > You might run into some problem with paint covering the bolt > head in the area your talking about. I had to remove the bolts > on the windshield brackets on my TJ when I installed a Garvin > Wilderness expedition rack & I made sure I had a new torx > bit & it was the CORRECT SIZE. It seems that especially with > torx bolts that a smaller size bit will feel like its the right size > but there will be just enough slop to mess up the bolt head. > I know that on one of the Harleys that I had that they had their > own size torx for something or other & I had to go & buy the > torx bit from Harley > > L8r - Jersey > > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a3f4978.0405081630.5d0d332d@posting.google.c om... > > I've always had to struggle with these idiotic Torx bolts Jeep uses. > > Today I was trying to put mirror relo brackets on...I was warned > > before that the retards at the factory had lathered lots of Loctite on > > these particular ones when they installed them. It is now not > > physically possible to exert enough force on these cheap bolts to > > loosen them before they strip. No matter how I line them up or how > > hard I keep the bit pressed in (even hammering the bit in doesn't work > > enough), these pieces of ---- just grind apart when I try to turn > > them. What can I do? They're not totally stripped out yet-I think I > > might just pay someone to spot weld a bar onto them and hammer them > > out. What other options do I have? It's a '99 TJ with no rust or > > anything in the holes. The Jeep is a great vehicle in the whole of its > > parts, but the details like this (and how cheap the black plastic on > > the interior is) are where it sucks! > > > > Matt > > > |
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