Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

> I think he means centering the axle front-to-rear, not side-to-side which
> you get from the adjustable track bar.

Gotcha. However as the suspension cycles the arc will change and the wheel
will constantly be off-center. Long arm kits have a longer arc and aren't as
suseptible, but then you have long arms that get hit with rocks and stuff.
>
> My $.02: I agree with Paul, you only need them if you are very particular
> in centering the axles in the wheel wells, otherwise, it's one more thing
> that will wear out...and they will wear out.

Agreed.

I believe
> RE's non adjustables are longer than stock, so that in itself will help
> with centering. I don't have them and do not need them.

Correct.

>
> tw
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

> I think he means centering the axle front-to-rear, not side-to-side which
> you get from the adjustable track bar.

Gotcha. However as the suspension cycles the arc will change and the wheel
will constantly be off-center. Long arm kits have a longer arc and aren't as
suseptible, but then you have long arms that get hit with rocks and stuff.
>
> My $.02: I agree with Paul, you only need them if you are very particular
> in centering the axles in the wheel wells, otherwise, it's one more thing
> that will wear out...and they will wear out.

Agreed.

I believe
> RE's non adjustables are longer than stock, so that in itself will help
> with centering. I don't have them and do not need them.

Correct.

>
> tw
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

Thank you Gents! As always great information. Just placed my order
with Red rock.

Was going to just run 33x12.5. Was looking at wheels now. Seems
everynoe has a different answer for backspacing. I was looking at
running 4" backspace. Would I be able to squeeze in further with say a
4.5"? I want to get the rubber as far under the fenders as possible
but I do not want steering washers or any rubbing. Thanks again!

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

Thank you Gents! As always great information. Just placed my order
with Red rock.

Was going to just run 33x12.5. Was looking at wheels now. Seems
everynoe has a different answer for backspacing. I was looking at
running 4" backspace. Would I be able to squeeze in further with say a
4.5"? I want to get the rubber as far under the fenders as possible
but I do not want steering washers or any rubbing. Thanks again!

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

Thank you Gents! As always great information. Just placed my order
with Red rock.

Was going to just run 33x12.5. Was looking at wheels now. Seems
everynoe has a different answer for backspacing. I was looking at
running 4" backspace. Would I be able to squeeze in further with say a
4.5"? I want to get the rubber as far under the fenders as possible
but I do not want steering washers or any rubbing. Thanks again!

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

in article Tjumh.1915$PN2.376@trnddc07, twaldron at twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com
wrote on 1/2/07 8:51 AM:

> I think he means centering the axle front-to-rear, not side-to-side
> which you get from the adjustable track bar.

Yes I did. Sorry. Thanks tw

Paul

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

in article Tjumh.1915$PN2.376@trnddc07, twaldron at twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com
wrote on 1/2/07 8:51 AM:

> I think he means centering the axle front-to-rear, not side-to-side
> which you get from the adjustable track bar.

Yes I did. Sorry. Thanks tw

Paul

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

in article Tjumh.1915$PN2.376@trnddc07, twaldron at twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com
wrote on 1/2/07 8:51 AM:

> I think he means centering the axle front-to-rear, not side-to-side
> which you get from the adjustable track bar.

Yes I did. Sorry. Thanks tw

Paul

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

I use to have the teraflex lower control arms but they were a disaster.
First the bushings will go every couple of years, then you need to
unscrew them and clean them and repack the grease. I even broke one
of the teraflex arms. Both ends screw into each other and I guess all
the winter salt and water leaked in and it rusted. Then the ends
seized so they would not rotate. I ended up taking a grinder and
cutting the remaining 3 off.

I now have the rubicon express ones (non adjustable) and really like
them, you can replace all the parts, as they are sold in kits.

Disclaimer - this happened to me and could have been a result of my
driving, offroading and maintance, I am in no way stating any opinion
on Teraflex lower control arms only that mine did not last and were a
PIA to maintain.


nawt2smart wrote:
> I'm going to purchase the RE7000 lift for my TJ (4.5"). I have a
> question on the lower control arms. Should I purchase the fixed lower
> control arms or go with adjustable? Teraflex has lower adjustables and
> was wondering why Rubicon doesn't offer this standard? Are the
> adjustable lowers really needed?
>
> Who has the best prices online for these kits? Cheapest I have seen is
> red rock 4x4.
>
> Thank you! Happy new year!

Re: Questions on Rubicon Express lift and control arms
 

I use to have the teraflex lower control arms but they were a disaster.
First the bushings will go every couple of years, then you need to
unscrew them and clean them and repack the grease. I even broke one
of the teraflex arms. Both ends screw into each other and I guess all
the winter salt and water leaked in and it rusted. Then the ends
seized so they would not rotate. I ended up taking a grinder and
cutting the remaining 3 off.

I now have the rubicon express ones (non adjustable) and really like
them, you can replace all the parts, as they are sold in kits.

Disclaimer - this happened to me and could have been a result of my
driving, offroading and maintance, I am in no way stating any opinion
on Teraflex lower control arms only that mine did not last and were a
PIA to maintain.


nawt2smart wrote:
> I'm going to purchase the RE7000 lift for my TJ (4.5"). I have a
> question on the lower control arms. Should I purchase the fixed lower
> control arms or go with adjustable? Teraflex has lower adjustables and
> was wondering why Rubicon doesn't offer this standard? Are the
> adjustable lowers really needed?
>
> Who has the best prices online for these kits? Cheapest I have seen is
> red rock 4x4.
>
> Thank you! Happy new year!