Questions on 30,000 mile service
01-30-2005, 07:41 PM
#41
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 07:41 PM
#42
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 07:41 PM
#43
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 07:45 PM
#44
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
You'll also see the difference in spark plug gapping between the
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 07:45 PM
#45
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
You'll also see the difference in spark plug gapping between the
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 07:45 PM
#46
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
You'll also see the difference in spark plug gapping between the
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
high energy Ford and GM and your fifties technology TJ.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't have
> > mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to the
> > injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
01-30-2005, 09:20 PM
#47
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
Jim Y. proclaimed:
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
01-30-2005, 09:20 PM
#48
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
Jim Y. proclaimed:
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
01-30-2005, 09:20 PM
#49
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
Jim Y. proclaimed:
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
> Hello, I got a few questions about the 30,000 mile service. I have a
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 liter w/Selectrac (part time and full
> time 4x4). It was purchased in early 2003 though.
>
> I'm at 28,000 miles now and have 2 Jeep dealers nearby. Their service on
> most items is the same: oil change, change trans fluid/filter (not
> flush), check belts, hoses, PCV valve....check coolant and flush if
> needed, rotate tires, emissions, etc.
>
> One big differerence is this:
>
> Dealer #1 charges $479, but also replaces the spark plugs and "inspects
> basic idle and set engine controls to factory specifications".
>
> Dealer #2 charges $359 and does NOT replace spark plugs but includes
> "perform throttle body-fuel inductions service".. What is that? Sounds
> like cleaning the injectors (?)
>
> My basic question is this: Do you recommend changing the plugs at 30,000
> miles? I'm quite sure I don't have platinum plugs and I don't think I've
> ever replaced plugs at 30,000 miles. The vehicle runs great and I want
> to maintain it though.
>
> Also I plan to request a transmission FLUSH, even if I have to pay more.
> (I've done this on all my vehicles) Also, should I request 4x4/transfer
> case service too? This is listed as a seperate stand-alone service and
> charge. What does the 4x4 service get you?
Spark plug replacement is in the FSM at 30K. So is drain/refill
transmission and transfer case. And check the serpentine, which
is pretty cheap to replace rather than mess with.
Pick up a Factory Service Manual from www.techauthority.com. Great
investment.
01-30-2005, 09:58 PM
#50
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Re: Questions on 30,000 mile service
Bill, have you ever even felt a 6-cyl engine misfire? If you had, you would
know that mine is not.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't
>> have
>> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to
>> the
>> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.
know that mine is not.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41FD7EB2.FE5A9F52@***.net...
> So seven thousand miles of miss firing would be about a hundred
> thousand in wear and tear? I guess you were obvious to the fact that
> Chrysler/***** haven't upped there voltage, even with your individual
> coils. they're still firing at fifties voltage.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Only has about 37,000 miles on it anyway. Runs like a champ. It doesn't
>> have
>> mechanical fuel injection, the fuel cuts off when there is no power to
>> the
>> injectors. Like I said, we've come a long way since the 1950's, Bill.