Esty

Hey All,
I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
setup like this?

BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be for
a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really get
some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
Esteban Salinas

99 WJ V8 w/QT2

Paul Calman

Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not bad
for slimy mud either.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
"Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?
>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas
>
> 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
>
>

Paul Calman

Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not bad
for slimy mud either.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
"Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?
>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas
>
> 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
>
>

Paul Calman

Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not bad
for slimy mud either.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
"Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?
>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas
>
> 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
>
>

Esty

Just to make sure you ran those on a WJ with 245/70's? With no scraping?
Thanks again!

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bo1bq0$16lbm6$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not
bad
> for slimy mud either.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
> news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> > Hey All,
> > I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains.
And
> > says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> > 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> > http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run
a
> > setup like this?
> >
> > BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
> for
> > a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
> get
> > some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> > Esteban Salinas
> >
> > 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
> >
> >
>
>

Esty

Just to make sure you ran those on a WJ with 245/70's? With no scraping?
Thanks again!

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bo1bq0$16lbm6$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not
bad
> for slimy mud either.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
> news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> > Hey All,
> > I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains.
And
> > says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> > 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> > http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run
a
> > setup like this?
> >
> > BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
> for
> > a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
> get
> > some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> > Esteban Salinas
> >
> > 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
> >
> >
>
>

Esty

Just to make sure you ran those on a WJ with 245/70's? With no scraping?
Thanks again!

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bo1bq0$16lbm6$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Those are what i run on y front end when pushing through heavy snow. Not
bad
> for slimy mud either.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "Esty" <es@es.com> wrote in message
> news:ipqdnf-0s6f_sDmiRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> > Hey All,
> > I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains.
And
> > says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> > 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> > http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run
a
> > setup like this?
> >
> > BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be
> for
> > a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really
> get
> > some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> > Esteban Salinas
> >
> > 99 WJ V8 w/QT2
> >
> >
>
>

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/1/03 14:04, Esty uttered for posterity:

> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?


Class S is the smallest class of gap between the tire and the hard parts
that is available for fitting chains. With additional restrictions
that some chains note as being suitable only for passenger cars and
not for SUV's with class S clearance. There are a few traditional
chain styles, including twist link and z-bar type links, but the
cross links on those are by definition a bit on the wimpy side in
order to be useable as Class S on the vehicles in their fitment
guide. In class S, the good chains are the cable variety, where
it is easier to maintain robustness and at the same time effectiveness.

The better cable chains also have better tighteners to keep the
chain closer to the tire...which also helps with limited clearance
but then the most effective way to do this is realize that the
chain moves outward simply as a result of centrifugal force and
if you ain't moving fast, it don't move outward as much. The worst
is when the driver insists on trying to spin the tires with chains
on.

If I were running chains of any type, it would be on a secondary
set of cheap steel wheels with the smallest snow tire that fits.

>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas

With a WJ and a good set of *very* tightly fitted cable chains, if
you can't make it thru, perhaps you may want to rethink your goals.



--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/1/03 14:04, Esty uttered for posterity:

> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?


Class S is the smallest class of gap between the tire and the hard parts
that is available for fitting chains. With additional restrictions
that some chains note as being suitable only for passenger cars and
not for SUV's with class S clearance. There are a few traditional
chain styles, including twist link and z-bar type links, but the
cross links on those are by definition a bit on the wimpy side in
order to be useable as Class S on the vehicles in their fitment
guide. In class S, the good chains are the cable variety, where
it is easier to maintain robustness and at the same time effectiveness.

The better cable chains also have better tighteners to keep the
chain closer to the tire...which also helps with limited clearance
but then the most effective way to do this is realize that the
chain moves outward simply as a result of centrifugal force and
if you ain't moving fast, it don't move outward as much. The worst
is when the driver insists on trying to spin the tires with chains
on.

If I were running chains of any type, it would be on a secondary
set of cheap steel wheels with the smallest snow tire that fits.

>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas

With a WJ and a good set of *very* tightly fitted cable chains, if
you can't make it thru, perhaps you may want to rethink your goals.



--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/1/03 14:04, Esty uttered for posterity:

> Hey All,
> I have a stock WJ and the manual recommends sae class "s" chains. And
> says that chains are not recommended for vehicles that have larger then
> 225/75's.. I have 245/70's. Would i have room for the
> http://www.tirechain.com/VBAR.htm (VBAR) tire chains??? Has anybody run a
> setup like this?


Class S is the smallest class of gap between the tire and the hard parts
that is available for fitting chains. With additional restrictions
that some chains note as being suitable only for passenger cars and
not for SUV's with class S clearance. There are a few traditional
chain styles, including twist link and z-bar type links, but the
cross links on those are by definition a bit on the wimpy side in
order to be useable as Class S on the vehicles in their fitment
guide. In class S, the good chains are the cable variety, where
it is easier to maintain robustness and at the same time effectiveness.

The better cable chains also have better tighteners to keep the
chain closer to the tire...which also helps with limited clearance
but then the most effective way to do this is realize that the
chain moves outward simply as a result of centrifugal force and
if you ain't moving fast, it don't move outward as much. The worst
is when the driver insists on trying to spin the tires with chains
on.

If I were running chains of any type, it would be on a secondary
set of cheap steel wheels with the smallest snow tire that fits.

>
> BTW, the reason I ask is that I figure if I ever need chains it will be for
> a pretty hairy situation so i might as well get something tha can really get
> some grip. I really appreciate the input! Thanks,
> Esteban Salinas

With a WJ and a good set of *very* tightly fitted cable chains, if
you can't make it thru, perhaps you may want to rethink your goals.



--
My governor can kick your governor's ***