Question regarding lift and track bars
10-16-2006, 02:06 PM
#1
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Question regarding lift and track bars
Hi all,
I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
question from a newbie.
In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
Thanks all!
I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
question from a newbie.
In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
Thanks all!
10-16-2006, 04:06 PM
#2
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
Yeah I drilled my front bar bracket and it worked all-right for me, but an
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:06 PM
#3
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
Yeah I drilled my front bar bracket and it worked all-right for me, but an
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:06 PM
#4
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
Yeah I drilled my front bar bracket and it worked all-right for me, but an
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
adjustable front track bar would have been "proper". ( i should have done
it). I have an adjustable rear track bar and its worth it. No drilling.
If you drill the bracket for a 2.5" lift yer screwed going up to 3.5.
Getting the adjustable front track bar would be better..
As far as the swaybar disconnects, I dont think there's such a thing as too
much articulation, except if your brake lines haven't been lengthened. If
those rip out yer screwed! I had built a custom set for my TJ but ended up
taking them off because they weren't perfect, and I didn't really need them
for anywhere I went.
As for cost being the issue, I must say that if you want it done proper ya
gotta spend the money. My lift kit came with the transfer case drop spacers
but it didn't help at all. So I bought the SYE kit and CV driveshaft (which
needed adjustable upper rear control arms) and ditched the spacers. Of
course 4 inches is more than the 3.5 yer planning.
Troy
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:12 PM
#5
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:12 PM
#6
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:12 PM
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
shocks..
"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021997.820445.34260@f16g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TJ that I want to put a mild lift on. Was considering the OME
> 2.5" but then I thought down the road I might want something a little
> taller. I am running 31's right now and am considering the Rubicon
> Express 3.5" Standard kit. All it has is springs, tcase drop, and sway
> bar links, and DT3000 shocks.
>
> I am not fond of drilling anywhere on the under carriage frame or
> brackets so question is. If I get BOTH front and rear adjustable track
> bars. Will this avoid drilling on the track bar brackets? Stupid
> question from a newbie.
>
> In addition, with just the components listed above, if I were to put on
> sway bar disconnects on, will I get too much articulation for the stock
> lower contrl arms and uppers? I certainly don't expect to get as much,
> but will I ruin anything by putting on sway bar disconnects and
> removing them when on the trail for added articulation?
>
> Cost is an issue, and that is why I am fretting going to the full
> superflex system, as I would have to buy a cv driveshaft, adjustable
> upper control arms, etc, which sends this into the 2k range.
>
> Thanks all!
>
10-16-2006, 04:50 PM
#8
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
billy ray wrote:
> If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
> about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
>
> As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
> shocks..
>
My main reason for lifting is after a 9000 warn winch and some lights
on the front the suspension is sagging pretty big. I now have 2 inch
suspension in the front before it hits the stopper. :(
10-16-2006, 04:50 PM
#9
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
billy ray wrote:
> If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
> about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
>
> As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
> shocks..
>
My main reason for lifting is after a 9000 warn winch and some lights
on the front the suspension is sagging pretty big. I now have 2 inch
suspension in the front before it hits the stopper. :(
10-16-2006, 04:50 PM
#10
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Re: Question regarding lift and track bars
billy ray wrote:
> If cost is a factor have you considered coil spring spacers? A set of 4 is
> about $100 and you can install them in an afternoon by yourself.
>
> As long as the spacers are 2 inches or less you don't even have to get new
> shocks..
>
My main reason for lifting is after a 9000 warn winch and some lights
on the front the suspension is sagging pretty big. I now have 2 inch
suspension in the front before it hits the stopper. :(