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Earle Horton 08-25-2003 10:11 AM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...

Earle

"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at

65-75
> mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
>
> I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because

of
> their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car

in
> the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops

with
> the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> with a swayback!
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY
>
> "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
>
>
> "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> >
> > thanks
> >

>
>




twaldron 08-25-2003 10:25 AM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
You must've been driving downhill...both ways! :)

Greg wrote:

> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
>>SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
>>hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
>>(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
>>Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
>>rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
>>for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
>>lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>>
>>That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
>>it again.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 08-25-2003 10:25 AM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
You must've been driving downhill...both ways! :)

Greg wrote:

> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
>>SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
>>hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
>>(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
>>Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
>>rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
>>for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
>>lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>>
>>That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
>>it again.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


sm3gurpal 08-25-2003 11:22 AM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Wranglers handle acceptably on highway, but they are not even remotely
in the league of a sports car. I wouldn't call them difficult to
drive at speeds over 60mph, exactly, but I definitely wouldn't want to
drive long highway distances in one on a regular basis.

If you are looking for something comparable to a Pathfinder and are
primarily interested in highway handling, get a Liberty instead.
(Many of the folks on this message group will disagree with me for
recommending a Liberty, but they are doing white-knuckle off-roading
that is more extreme than anywhere you are ever likely to drive. The
Liberty is ideal for what you are describing.)

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks


sm3gurpal 08-25-2003 11:22 AM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Wranglers handle acceptably on highway, but they are not even remotely
in the league of a sports car. I wouldn't call them difficult to
drive at speeds over 60mph, exactly, but I definitely wouldn't want to
drive long highway distances in one on a regular basis.

If you are looking for something comparable to a Pathfinder and are
primarily interested in highway handling, get a Liberty instead.
(Many of the folks on this message group will disagree with me for
recommending a Liberty, but they are doing white-knuckle off-roading
that is more extreme than anywhere you are ever likely to drive. The
Liberty is ideal for what you are describing.)

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2003 12:52 PM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Less wear and tear in direct, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
> with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
> I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
> putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
> gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
> passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...
>
> Earle
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at

> 65-75
> > mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> > even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> > trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> > headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> > way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> > driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> > Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
> >
> > I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because

> of
> > their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> > wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> > looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> > driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car

> in
> > the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> > plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> > least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops

> with
> > the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> > 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> > wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> > with a swayback!
> > --
> > Dana Rohleder
> > Port Kent, NY
> >
> > "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
> >
> >
> > "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >

> >
> >


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2003 12:52 PM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Less wear and tear in direct, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
> with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
> I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
> putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
> gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
> passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...
>
> Earle
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at

> 65-75
> > mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> > even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> > trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> > headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> > way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> > driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> > Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
> >
> > I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because

> of
> > their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> > wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> > looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> > driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car

> in
> > the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> > plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> > least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops

> with
> > the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> > 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> > wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> > with a swayback!
> > --
> > Dana Rohleder
> > Port Kent, NY
> >
> > "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
> >
> >
> > "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >

> >
> >


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2003 12:55 PM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Yes, it does well with stock tires, it's when you put off road
tires on it that it can't get out of it's own way.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2003 12:55 PM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
Yes, it does well with stock tires, it's when you put off road
tires on it that it can't get out of it's own way.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2003 01:00 PM

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 
It's a part of all SMOG motors since the seventies. Probably, the
best part about buying a two hundred dollar chip.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Do any other models have limiters out of interest ?
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara



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