Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hi all,

I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.

thanks

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

The ones your blowing past on the freeway are the four cylinder models.
Great on the trails, but suck in the fast lane. So, make sure your get the
4 liter, six. As four handling -- my opinion is that the new Wrangler
models are really built for the highway in terms of suspension, gearing and
gas milege. You have to make them trailworthy by adding offroad performance
equipment, i.e. bigger tires, lift kits, gears, etc. Once your start adding
stuff, the changes you make now lean toward greater trail performance and
less stability on the highway at speed. Of course there is middle ground,
but only you can determine what that based on your preferences for street or
trail performance. Since your in CA, the strict vehicle laws will limit you
anyway in terms of upgrades. Your best bet is to keep it for street
performance so you can drive out-of-state quickly and safely to get to some
descent trails that the "Tree Huggers" haven't closed down.

Scott

"driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

The ones your blowing past on the freeway are the four cylinder models.
Great on the trails, but suck in the fast lane. So, make sure your get the
4 liter, six. As four handling -- my opinion is that the new Wrangler
models are really built for the highway in terms of suspension, gearing and
gas milege. You have to make them trailworthy by adding offroad performance
equipment, i.e. bigger tires, lift kits, gears, etc. Once your start adding
stuff, the changes you make now lean toward greater trail performance and
less stability on the highway at speed. Of course there is middle ground,
but only you can determine what that based on your preferences for street or
trail performance. Since your in CA, the strict vehicle laws will limit you
anyway in terms of upgrades. Your best bet is to keep it for street
performance so you can drive out-of-state quickly and safely to get to some
descent trails that the "Tree Huggers" haven't closed down.

Scott

"driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!

That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
it again.

driver wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!

That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
it again.

driver wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Do any other models have limiters out of interest ?

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:79o2b.980$gf.32521@twister.austin.rr.com...
: "driver" wrote ...
: > One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
: > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems
: > like I'm always passing them on the freeways here in
: > California. Are they difficult to drive at speeds over
: > 60 MPH?
:
: If the Jeep has it's top removed, they might be only going 60 mph because
: the wind noise is making them deaf... Real Jeeps tend to have the
: aerodynamics of a brick thus a lot of wind noise -- more so than
convertible
: sports cars... The I-6 4 liter engine will go quite a bit more than 60
: mph... In my XJ, it will go over 100, but the wind noise makes you deaf at
: around 80... The WJ has a speed limiter at 115, but even at that speed
there
: is very little wind noise... I guess since the WJ doesn't have the
: aerodynamics of a brick, it's not a *real* Jeep...
:
:

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Do any other models have limiters out of interest ?

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:79o2b.980$gf.32521@twister.austin.rr.com...
: "driver" wrote ...
: > One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
: > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems
: > like I'm always passing them on the freeways here in
: > California. Are they difficult to drive at speeds over
: > 60 MPH?
:
: If the Jeep has it's top removed, they might be only going 60 mph because
: the wind noise is making them deaf... Real Jeeps tend to have the
: aerodynamics of a brick thus a lot of wind noise -- more so than
convertible
: sports cars... The I-6 4 liter engine will go quite a bit more than 60
: mph... In my XJ, it will go over 100, but the wind noise makes you deaf at
: around 80... The WJ has a speed limiter at 115, but even at that speed
there
: is very little wind noise... I guess since the WJ doesn't have the
: aerodynamics of a brick, it's not a *real* Jeep...
:
:

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
great.


"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
> SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
> hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
> (you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
> Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
> rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
> for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
> lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>
> That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
> it again.
>
> driver wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
great.


"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
> SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
> hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
> (you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
> Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
> rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
> for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
> lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>
> That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
> it again.
>
> driver wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...

Earle

"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at
65-75
> mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
>
> I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because
of
> their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car
in
> the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops
with
> the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> with a swayback!
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY
>
> "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
>
>
> "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...

Earle

"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at
65-75
> mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
>
> I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because
of
> their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car
in
> the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops
with
> the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> with a swayback!
> --
> Dana Rohleder
> Port Kent, NY
>
> "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
>
>
> "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> >
> > thanks
> >
>
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You must've been driving downhill...both ways! :)

Greg wrote:

> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
>>SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
>>hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
>>(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
>>Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
>>rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
>>for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
>>lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>>
>>That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
>>it again.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You must've been driving downhill...both ways! :)

Greg wrote:

> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kUm2b.3423$UW7.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>I've owned both an '89 and '93 Pathfinder. The Wrangler, while the best
>>SWB (CJ/YJ/TJ) Jeep produced yet for hwy use, is not a Pathfinder on the
>>hwy. If you do a lot of cross-country, I'd use your Pathfinder for that
>>(you're keeping it anyway). For a while there, I owned a CJ and a
>>Pathfinder and found them to compliment each other nicely. The 4cyl is
>>rather gutless on the hwy, so I'd avoid that, but otherwise I'd say 'go
>>for it'. You don't by a Jeep for comfort, highspeed, gas mileage nor
>>lots of long distance hwy driving, you buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep!
>>
>>That said, I've done several long distance trips in my Jeeps and will do
>>it again.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Wranglers handle acceptably on highway, but they are not even remotely
in the league of a sports car. I wouldn't call them difficult to
drive at speeds over 60mph, exactly, but I definitely wouldn't want to
drive long highway distances in one on a regular basis.

If you are looking for something comparable to a Pathfinder and are
primarily interested in highway handling, get a Liberty instead.
(Many of the folks on this message group will disagree with me for
recommending a Liberty, but they are doing white-knuckle off-roading
that is more extreme than anywhere you are ever likely to drive. The
Liberty is ideal for what you are describing.)

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Wranglers handle acceptably on highway, but they are not even remotely
in the league of a sports car. I wouldn't call them difficult to
drive at speeds over 60mph, exactly, but I definitely wouldn't want to
drive long highway distances in one on a regular basis.

If you are looking for something comparable to a Pathfinder and are
primarily interested in highway handling, get a Liberty instead.
(Many of the folks on this message group will disagree with me for
recommending a Liberty, but they are doing white-knuckle off-roading
that is more extreme than anywhere you are ever likely to drive. The
Liberty is ideal for what you are describing.)

> Hi all,
>
> I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
>
> thanks

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Less wear and tear in direct, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
> with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
> I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
> putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
> gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
> passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...
>
> Earle
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at
> 65-75
> > mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> > even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> > trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> > headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> > way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> > driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> > Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
> >
> > I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because
> of
> > their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> > wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> > looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> > driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car
> in
> > the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> > plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> > least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops
> with
> > the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> > 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> > wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> > with a swayback!
> > --
> > Dana Rohleder
> > Port Kent, NY
> >
> > "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
> >
> >
> > "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Less wear and tear in direct, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You could drive this vehicle at 65-75 mph all day long in fourth, and I have
> with mine. I think that the fuel economy is even better when you do that!
> I don't know about the sixes but the designers were "optimistic" at least
> putting a fifth gear in this vehicle. (It might be useful if you were to
> gear it down though.) I passed a CJ7 at 85 mph in mine once. I have also
> passed numerous VW Microbuses, a Subaru, and an old lady in a Buick...
>
> Earle
>
> "Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vkk5j6dh9d7j33@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 93 Wrangler with the 2.5L 4-banger and routinely drive it at
> 65-75
> > mph on level stretches of highway with the top off. However, as soon as it
> > even sees a hill, I need to downshift out of 5th. If there is a tractor
> > trailer within 1/4 mile, it gets pretty twitchy - same with crosswinds and
> > headwinds. It is NOT a highway cruiser, but I commute with it 1/2 hr each
> > way every day the sun is out. I really love it for all other types of
> > driving. The top-off season is only 4-5 months up long up here in the
> > Adirondacks, so I really enjoy the sun when it's out!!
> >
> > I would assume the TJ's are superior in ride and driving comfort because
> of
> > their redesigned suspension. But with any vehicle with such a short
> > wheelbase, you will have to stay on top of them at 70 mph or you can be
> > looking up at your floor in a blink. Unless you do very little highway
> > driving, I would consider the YJ as a second car only, with a highway car
> in
> > the garage, in my case a Saturn LW300. If you just want a convertible and
> > plan to stick to the hard roads, you may want to consider a sports car, at
> > least until Jeep wakes up and reissues the Jeepster / Commando ragtops
> with
> > the longer wheelbases. I have been considering lopping the top off of a
> > 2-door Cherokee just to get a 4wd convertible with a highway-friendly
> > wheelbase, but the unibody construction makes me reluctant as I may end up
> > with a swayback!
> > --
> > Dana Rohleder
> > Port Kent, NY
> >
> > "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - G.W. Bush
> >
> >
> > "driver" <nissan_pathfinder95!NOSPAM!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F49E4FE.A66BC1C1@hotmail.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I currently drive a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, and am looking to buy a new
> > > vehicle in the next 6 months. I love my Pathy, it's given me many years
> > > of virtually trouble free service. In fact, no matter what, I plan to
> > > keep it, no matter what other vehicle I buy. However, I'm not sure if I
> > > will consider a 2003-04 Pathy. Lately, I've been really digging Jeep
> > > Wranglers, and plan to test drive some at my local dealer in the coming
> > > weeks. One question I have: how do wranglers handle on the
> > > highway/freeway? I ask this question because it seems like I'm always
> > > passing them on the freeways here in California. Are they difficult to
> > > drive at speeds over 60 MPH? I'm being serious here, as I have yet to
> > > drive one. I'm not looking for a sportscar, but I just want to get an
> > > idea on the Wrangler's overall capabilities.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Yes, it does well with stock tires, it's when you put off road
tires on it that it can't get out of it's own way.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Yes, it does well with stock tires, it's when you put off road
tires on it that it can't get out of it's own way.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Ok, that's the second response I read about the poor little 4 cyl, I drove
> my daughter's 95 yj 4 cyl about 500 miles both ways to Jeep Jam. and had no
> problem keeping it at 80 mph, 3rd is a bit of a dragger but 4th and 5th are
> great.

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

It's a part of all SMOG motors since the seventies. Probably, the
best part about buying a two hundred dollar chip.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Do any other models have limiters out of interest ?
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

It's a part of all SMOG motors since the seventies. Probably, the
best part about buying a two hundred dollar chip.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Do any other models have limiters out of interest ?
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.

I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
at 4500.

I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It's the engine rev limiter I was thinking of, I think the six is
> set at about forty six hundred.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Really ? I'd never even considered that my TJ might have a speed limiter.
> > Wonder what it is set at - I haven't had mine over 85 (most of the time its
> > a old lady like 75).
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.

I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
at 4500.

I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It's the engine rev limiter I was thinking of, I think the six is
> set at about forty six hundred.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Really ? I'd never even considered that my TJ might have a speed limiter.
> > Wonder what it is set at - I haven't had mine over 85 (most of the time its
> > a old lady like 75).
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hi Mike,
Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
>
> I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> at 4500.
>
> I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Hi Mike,
Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
>
> I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> at 4500.
>
> I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift 3500
max.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
: Hi Mike,
: Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
: hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
: But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
: 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
: Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
: the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
: grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Mike Romain wrote:
: >
: > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
: >
: > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
: > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
: > at 4500.
: >
: > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
: > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
: >
: > Mike
: > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift 3500
max.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
: Hi Mike,
: Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
: hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
: But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
: 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
: Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
: the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
: grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Mike Romain wrote:
: >
: > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
: >
: > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
: > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
: > at 4500.
: >
: > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
: > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
: >
: > Mike
: > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
3500
> max.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
> : Hi Mike,
> : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
> : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
> : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
> : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
> : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
> : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
> : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
> : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> :
> : Mike Romain wrote:
> : >
> : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
> : >
> : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> : > at 4500.
> : >
> : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
> : >
> : > Mike
> : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
3500
> max.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
> : Hi Mike,
> : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
> : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
> : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
> : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
> : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
> : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
> : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
> : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> :
> : Mike Romain wrote:
> : >
> : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
> : >
> : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> : > at 4500.
> : >
> : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
> : >
> : > Mike
> : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

quite... I couldn't imagine it at 6000 rpm. It sounds like its going to
detonate at 3500 and the police can hear you coming a block away...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g0w2b.9695$jY2.7300@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
: 3500
: > max.
: > --
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
: > news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
: > : Hi Mike,
: > : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
: > : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that
high.
: > : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
: > : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
: > : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
: > : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
: > : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
: > : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Mike Romain wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
: > : >
: > : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out
at
: > : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops'
dead
: > : > at 4500.
: > : >
: > : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to
replace
: > : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve
float.
: > : >
: > : > Mike
: > : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: >
: >
:
:

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

quite... I couldn't imagine it at 6000 rpm. It sounds like its going to
detonate at 3500 and the police can hear you coming a block away...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:g0w2b.9695$jY2.7300@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
: 3500
: > max.
: > --
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
: > news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
: > : Hi Mike,
: > : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
: > : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that
high.
: > : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
: > : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
: > : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
: > : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
: > : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
: > : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Mike Romain wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
: > : >
: > : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out
at
: > : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops'
dead
: > : > at 4500.
: > : >
: > : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to
replace
: > : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve
float.
: > : >
: > : > Mike
: > : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: >
: >
:
:

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You must still have the computer running it or in the loop somewhere or
are running an ethanol mix.

I can pull out to almost 55 mph in second when hitting 4500 rpm using 91
octane gas and get 19 US mpg.

It runs like a pig on ethanol mix.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe wrote:
>
> geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
> 3500
> > max.
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
> > : Hi Mike,
> > : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
> > : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
> > : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
> > : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
> > : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
> > : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
> > : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
> > : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > :
> > : Mike Romain wrote:
> > : >
> > : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
> > : >
> > : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> > : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> > : > at 4500.
> > : >
> > : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> > : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
> > : >
> > : > Mike
> > : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >

Re: Question From a Potential JEEP Wrangler Buyer
 

You must still have the computer running it or in the loop somewhere or
are running an ethanol mix.

I can pull out to almost 55 mph in second when hitting 4500 rpm using 91
octane gas and get 19 US mpg.

It runs like a pig on ethanol mix.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe wrote:
>
> geez... my cj (258 w/carter bbd) drops off at about 2500 rpm
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:NAu2b.4318$kE.41341045@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Dunno Bill - it sounds a bit thrashy at 4500 as it is. I usually shift
> 3500
> > max.
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F4A6C59.890CD2C6@cox.net...
> > : Hi Mike,
> > : Your year would probably need a cam and kit, of course your two
> > : hundred Cubic Feet Per Minute POS Carter BBD wouldn't let rev that high.
> > : But it was way up there when I pitted for a stock Rambler back in the
> > : 1964 Winter Nationals at Pomona, California. When you going to get a
> > : Weber? And don't tell me how Weber has a part in your POS. If you put
> > : the K55138 2 Barrel 400 CFM Weber on your CJ you could shift at six
> > : grand: http://www.classictruckshop.com/garage/shopmathcfm1.asp
> > : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > :
> > : Mike Romain wrote:
> > : >
> > : > Man, that big six just 'don't' rev over 4500 rpm.
> > : >
> > : > I have no computer or other pollution crap running an she tops out at
> > : > 4500 in 2nd gear. It pulls strong and then the pull just 'stops' dead
> > : > at 4500.
> > : >
> > : > I was told the only way to get a bit higher out of them was to replace
> > : > the valve springs with a 'lot' stronger ones to stop the valve float.
> > : >
> > : > Mike
> > : > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > : > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >