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VJF 06-11-2004 08:00 PM

Question from a lurker.
 
I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
guys provide great info to everyone that asks.


I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.


This is from the cd player:

http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg


Now I need the same thing from the jeep.



Thanks in advance!

Cenzo
95 YJ

DougW 06-11-2004 08:31 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
VJF did pass the time by typing:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.


Don't have anything for a 95 YJ or I'd post it, sorry.
Check the current radio, the one from my ZJ had a wiring
pinout on it, yours might also.

If no one has the info here I suggest trying a local sterio store
they usually have books or drop by a dealership and ask to read
the service manual. I'd give you the colors from the 93ZJ but they
might have changed.

--
DougW



DougW 06-11-2004 08:31 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
VJF did pass the time by typing:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.


Don't have anything for a 95 YJ or I'd post it, sorry.
Check the current radio, the one from my ZJ had a wiring
pinout on it, yours might also.

If no one has the info here I suggest trying a local sterio store
they usually have books or drop by a dealership and ask to read
the service manual. I'd give you the colors from the 93ZJ but they
might have changed.

--
DougW



DougW 06-11-2004 08:31 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
VJF did pass the time by typing:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.


Don't have anything for a 95 YJ or I'd post it, sorry.
Check the current radio, the one from my ZJ had a wiring
pinout on it, yours might also.

If no one has the info here I suggest trying a local sterio store
they usually have books or drop by a dealership and ask to read
the service manual. I'd give you the colors from the 93ZJ but they
might have changed.

--
DougW



DougW 06-11-2004 08:31 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
VJF did pass the time by typing:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.


Don't have anything for a 95 YJ or I'd post it, sorry.
Check the current radio, the one from my ZJ had a wiring
pinout on it, yours might also.

If no one has the info here I suggest trying a local sterio store
they usually have books or drop by a dealership and ask to read
the service manual. I'd give you the colors from the 93ZJ but they
might have changed.

--
DougW



c 06-11-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 

"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


Save yourself a lot of hassles and check one of your local stereo stores for
one of these:

http://www.tune-town.com/wire/1988-9..._MET711002.htm

These plug right in to the factory harness plug so you don't have to cut any
of the original wires.

Chris



c 06-11-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 

"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


Save yourself a lot of hassles and check one of your local stereo stores for
one of these:

http://www.tune-town.com/wire/1988-9..._MET711002.htm

These plug right in to the factory harness plug so you don't have to cut any
of the original wires.

Chris



c 06-11-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 

"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


Save yourself a lot of hassles and check one of your local stereo stores for
one of these:

http://www.tune-town.com/wire/1988-9..._MET711002.htm

These plug right in to the factory harness plug so you don't have to cut any
of the original wires.

Chris



c 06-11-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 

"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


Save yourself a lot of hassles and check one of your local stereo stores for
one of these:

http://www.tune-town.com/wire/1988-9..._MET711002.htm

These plug right in to the factory harness plug so you don't have to cut any
of the original wires.

Chris



Dean 06-11-2004 08:45 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
When I replaced my radio I bought the wiring adapter from Crutchfield.

<http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xflUaGZtJXW/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?c=11&g=103000&s=0&cc=01&avf=Y&search =>

One end plugged right into the Jeep's wiring harness and the other was labeled
with the various speaker, power, ground, etc connections. Made the whole thing
very easy.

Dean

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:00:03 GMT, VJF <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
>guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
>I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
>a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
>diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
>This is from the cd player:
>
>http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
>Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Cenzo
>95 YJ



Dean 06-11-2004 08:45 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
When I replaced my radio I bought the wiring adapter from Crutchfield.

<http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xflUaGZtJXW/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?c=11&g=103000&s=0&cc=01&avf=Y&search =>

One end plugged right into the Jeep's wiring harness and the other was labeled
with the various speaker, power, ground, etc connections. Made the whole thing
very easy.

Dean

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:00:03 GMT, VJF <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
>guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
>I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
>a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
>diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
>This is from the cd player:
>
>http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
>Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Cenzo
>95 YJ



Dean 06-11-2004 08:45 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
When I replaced my radio I bought the wiring adapter from Crutchfield.

<http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xflUaGZtJXW/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?c=11&g=103000&s=0&cc=01&avf=Y&search =>

One end plugged right into the Jeep's wiring harness and the other was labeled
with the various speaker, power, ground, etc connections. Made the whole thing
very easy.

Dean

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:00:03 GMT, VJF <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
>guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
>I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
>a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
>diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
>This is from the cd player:
>
>http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
>Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Cenzo
>95 YJ



Dean 06-11-2004 08:45 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
When I replaced my radio I bought the wiring adapter from Crutchfield.

<http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xflUaGZtJXW/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?c=11&g=103000&s=0&cc=01&avf=Y&search =>

One end plugged right into the Jeep's wiring harness and the other was labeled
with the various speaker, power, ground, etc connections. Made the whole thing
very easy.

Dean

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:00:03 GMT, VJF <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
>guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
>I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
>a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
>diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
>This is from the cd player:
>
>http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
>Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Cenzo
>95 YJ



VJF 06-11-2004 09:14 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Much thanks guys! I appreciate your time.


Cenzo
95 YJ

VJF wrote:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


VJF 06-11-2004 09:14 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Much thanks guys! I appreciate your time.


Cenzo
95 YJ

VJF wrote:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


VJF 06-11-2004 09:14 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Much thanks guys! I appreciate your time.


Cenzo
95 YJ

VJF wrote:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


VJF 06-11-2004 09:14 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Much thanks guys! I appreciate your time.


Cenzo
95 YJ

VJF wrote:
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ


Endo 06-12-2004 03:16 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
any install.

Shawn


"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




Endo 06-12-2004 03:16 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
any install.

Shawn


"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




Endo 06-12-2004 03:16 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
any install.

Shawn


"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




Endo 06-12-2004 03:16 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
any install.

Shawn


"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




DougW 06-12-2004 03:29 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
> previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
> it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
> and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
> and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
> it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
> any install.


More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.

Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.

One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to use
the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power feeds.

Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo install.
If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
much more with some extra time and quality parts.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 06-12-2004 03:29 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
> previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
> it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
> and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
> and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
> it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
> any install.


More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.

Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.

One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to use
the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power feeds.

Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo install.
If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
much more with some extra time and quality parts.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 06-12-2004 03:29 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
> previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
> it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
> and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
> and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
> it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
> any install.


More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.

Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.

One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to use
the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power feeds.

Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo install.
If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
much more with some extra time and quality parts.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 06-12-2004 03:29 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires. The
> previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and now
> it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron out
> and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a mess
> and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I guess
> it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires for
> any install.


More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.

Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.

One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to use
the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power feeds.

Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo install.
If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
much more with some extra time and quality parts.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Endo 06-12-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?

Shawn


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:tQIyc.37043$%T.24403@okepread05...
> Endo did pass the time by typing:
> > Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires.

The
> > previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and

now
> > it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron

out
> > and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a

mess
> > and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I

guess
> > it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires

for
> > any install.

>
> More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
> And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.
>
> Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
> Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
> Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.
>
> One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to

use
> the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
> stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power

feeds.
>
> Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo

install.
> If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
> much more with some extra time and quality parts.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>




Endo 06-12-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?

Shawn


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:tQIyc.37043$%T.24403@okepread05...
> Endo did pass the time by typing:
> > Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires.

The
> > previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and

now
> > it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron

out
> > and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a

mess
> > and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I

guess
> > it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires

for
> > any install.

>
> More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
> And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.
>
> Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
> Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
> Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.
>
> One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to

use
> the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
> stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power

feeds.
>
> Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo

install.
> If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
> much more with some extra time and quality parts.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>




Endo 06-12-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?

Shawn


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:tQIyc.37043$%T.24403@okepread05...
> Endo did pass the time by typing:
> > Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires.

The
> > previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and

now
> > it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron

out
> > and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a

mess
> > and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I

guess
> > it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires

for
> > any install.

>
> More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
> And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.
>
> Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
> Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
> Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.
>
> One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to

use
> the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
> stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power

feeds.
>
> Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo

install.
> If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
> much more with some extra time and quality parts.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>




Endo 06-12-2004 04:38 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?

Shawn


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:tQIyc.37043$%T.24403@okepread05...
> Endo did pass the time by typing:
> > Yes by all means use a harness adapter and NEVER cut the factory wires.

The
> > previous owner of my TJ made a complete ------- mess of my harness and

now
> > it's half-assed together. I'm going to probably get the soldering iron

out
> > and redo the mess then heat shrink it all. Even the speaker ends are a

mess
> > and they make adapters for those too. Every Circuit City uses them, I

guess
> > it's a rule they have that they are not allowed to cut the factory wires

for
> > any install.

>
> More like they don't trust the kiddos with soldering irons. :)
> And after seeing some "box store" installs, I wouldn't either.
>
> Ever seen a 200W amp being powered by a long ass run of AC extension cord?
> Twas a sad looking and sounding system. Amazing what the proper wire did.
> Just hope the kid didn't pop his eardrums.
>
> One of the drawbacks in using a stock harness is the car makers tend to

use
> the thinnest (cheapest, lightest) wire they can get away with. Higher end
> stereos don't work well with high loss speaker wire and teeny tiny power

feeds.
>
> Generally I steer clear of using any OEM harness in a quality stereo

install.
> If your just replacing the head then it should be fine, but you can get so
> much more with some extra time and quality parts.
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>




DougW 06-12-2004 04:50 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
> could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
> wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
> locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
> front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
> speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
> probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
> switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?


You can. The antenna is usually a standard female spade style. Dimmer power
comes from the stock harness but usually main power comes from a new feed.
On mine I tapped the dimmer wire and then bundled the old connector back into
the dash.



DougW 06-12-2004 04:50 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
> could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
> wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
> locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
> front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
> speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
> probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
> switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?


You can. The antenna is usually a standard female spade style. Dimmer power
comes from the stock harness but usually main power comes from a new feed.
On mine I tapped the dimmer wire and then bundled the old connector back into
the dash.



DougW 06-12-2004 04:50 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
> could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
> wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
> locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
> front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
> speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
> probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
> switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?


You can. The antenna is usually a standard female spade style. Dimmer power
comes from the stock harness but usually main power comes from a new feed.
On mine I tapped the dimmer wire and then bundled the old connector back into
the dash.



DougW 06-12-2004 04:50 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
Endo did pass the time by typing:
> I agree with you, the factory wiring is many time a lot lighter that it
> could be. If I were setting up a real good install then I would run all new
> wire for power and speakers. If you were amping the speakers inthe factory
> locations you would almost have to anyway, unless you did the wiring the
> front and rear wires together in the dash and running directly to the rear
> speakers from the amp. I know a few people who have gone that route. You'd
> probably still want a harness for the other connections like dimmer,
> switched ignition, and power antenna (if equipped) no?


You can. The antenna is usually a standard female spade style. Dimmer power
comes from the stock harness but usually main power comes from a new feed.
On mine I tapped the dimmer wire and then bundled the old connector back into
the dash.



CRWLR 06-14-2004 12:37 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
You can buy a pigtail that connects to the vehicle's wiring harness, and
splices into the radio's pigtail. The leads are marked. Match them up as you
splice.




"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




CRWLR 06-14-2004 12:37 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
You can buy a pigtail that connects to the vehicle's wiring harness, and
splices into the radio's pigtail. The leads are marked. Match them up as you
splice.




"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




CRWLR 06-14-2004 12:37 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
You can buy a pigtail that connects to the vehicle's wiring harness, and
splices into the radio's pigtail. The leads are marked. Match them up as you
splice.




"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ




CRWLR 06-14-2004 12:37 PM

Re: Question from a lurker.
 
You can buy a pigtail that connects to the vehicle's wiring harness, and
splices into the radio's pigtail. The leads are marked. Match them up as you
splice.




"VJF" <noip@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7Iryc.144902$hY.55280@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I read this group everyday but never have anything really to say. You
> guys provide great info to everyone that asks.
>
>
> I have a easy question for you. I am replacing the factory stereo with
> a cd player. I have the wiring harness but cannot find the wiring
> diagram for it. I have the Haynes manual but it does not list it either.
>
>
> This is from the cd player:
>
> http://home.rochester.rr.com/kidwiz/...%20diagram.jpg
>
>
> Now I need the same thing from the jeep.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Cenzo
> 95 YJ





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