Question Electric fan
10-06-2005, 06:36 PM
#41
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Re: Question Electric fan
yup, my bad 220
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
10-06-2005, 06:36 PM
#42
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Re: Question Electric fan
yup, my bad 220
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
10-06-2005, 06:36 PM
#43
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Re: Question Electric fan
yup, my bad 220
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4345960F.20198033@***.net...
> You mean under 220, as anything under 160 will cause the cylinders
> to instantly taper. That I've seen the telltale wear on many pickups
> that had their thermostats removed.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my
temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> >
> > >
> > Hi Tom,
> > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical. There's
no
> > >way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears at
> > >ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to cool
> > >it's self.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43458e1c$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> > > Not to mention how long an electric fan motor will last with that kind
of
> > > duty. The idea of an electric fan, is that most of the time, you
don't
> > need
> > > it. If you violate this assumption with your conditions of use, an
> > electric
> > > fan is not for you. I'll bet that if I shorted the switch on mine,
and
> > just
> > > let it run, it wouldn't last an hour.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43458947.48D1C582@***.net...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > If you do any off road at all stick with the mechanical.
There's no
> > > > way an electric fan may cool and engine climbing in the lower gears
at
> > > > ten miles an hour. It'll take every bit of that ten horsepower to
cool
> > > > it's self.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tom P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone installed an electric replacement fan on a Wrangler? Is
the
> > > > > gained HP and added fuel milege worth the ost.
> > > > > Thanks for any insight.
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
10-06-2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: Question Electric fan
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: Question Electric fan
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 08:35 PM
#46
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Re: Question Electric fan
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Nick says...
> > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my jeep
> > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and my temp
> > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > Nick
> > []
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan won't
> come on.
>
> --
>
Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
and shroud?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 10:28 PM
#47
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Re: Question Electric fan
Hi Mike,
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 10:28 PM
#48
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Re: Question Electric fan
Hi Mike,
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 10:28 PM
#49
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Re: Question Electric fan
Hi Mike,
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Anytime you're fan is over an inch away from the core, you need a
shroud. Which we all need at least for flex clearance.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-06-2005, 11:58 PM
#50
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Re: Question Electric fan
I just have the basic autozone water pump. I spent the extra cash for a
three core radiator, considering I live here, where it can reach 120 degrees
for a week. It was about 200 bucks, with warrenty and is metal (aluminum,
steel? I don't know for sure). My thermostat on the fan is set to come on
right before 220 and the temp probe is through the radiator fins right where
the coolent comes from the engine into the radiator.
Nick
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4345C2D0.93AD751B@sympatico.ca...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > Nick says...
> > > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and
my temp
> > > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > > Nick
> > > []
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan
won't
> > come on.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
three core radiator, considering I live here, where it can reach 120 degrees
for a week. It was about 200 bucks, with warrenty and is metal (aluminum,
steel? I don't know for sure). My thermostat on the fan is set to come on
right before 220 and the temp probe is through the radiator fins right where
the coolent comes from the engine into the radiator.
Nick
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4345C2D0.93AD751B@sympatico.ca...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > Nick says...
> > > I've had my electric in for about four years, beat the crap out of my
jeep
> > > offroading....and..... I live in phoenix with 118 degree summers and
my temp
> > > stays just under 120, that's with a three core radiator.
> > > Nick
> > > []
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's the key, heavy duty cooling. If you're moving at all, the fan
won't
> > come on.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> Do you know if there are better pumps or do you just use a good 3 core
> and shroud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's