Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
#21
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
I have a 2005 rubicon 8k miles my jeep does the same thing. I too was
just starting to wonder. I was thinking of going to a dealer and test
driving a new jeep and see if it did the same thing. Or take it in to
the dealer.
I dont recall if it always did this or not. Maybe I am worrying over
nothing and the guage is slow. Let me know what you find out.
HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> all along.
just starting to wonder. I was thinking of going to a dealer and test
driving a new jeep and see if it did the same thing. Or take it in to
the dealer.
I dont recall if it always did this or not. Maybe I am worrying over
nothing and the guage is slow. Let me know what you find out.
HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> all along.
#22
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
I have a 2005 rubicon 8k miles my jeep does the same thing. I too was
just starting to wonder. I was thinking of going to a dealer and test
driving a new jeep and see if it did the same thing. Or take it in to
the dealer.
I dont recall if it always did this or not. Maybe I am worrying over
nothing and the guage is slow. Let me know what you find out.
HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> all along.
just starting to wonder. I was thinking of going to a dealer and test
driving a new jeep and see if it did the same thing. Or take it in to
the dealer.
I dont recall if it always did this or not. Maybe I am worrying over
nothing and the guage is slow. Let me know what you find out.
HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> all along.
#23
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Sorry for the top post, but:
Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
into the pan when not running.
2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
was an exception...they always worked.
3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
"Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
at the next oil change.
5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
use Fram again in a pinch.
6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
anti-drainback function.
Best Regards,
DAve
Earle Horton wrote:
> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
>> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> least document it.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
>>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
>>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
>>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
>>> all along.
>
>
#24
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Sorry for the top post, but:
Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
into the pan when not running.
2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
was an exception...they always worked.
3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
"Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
at the next oil change.
5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
use Fram again in a pinch.
6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
anti-drainback function.
Best Regards,
DAve
Earle Horton wrote:
> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
>> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> least document it.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
>>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
>>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
>>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
>>> all along.
>
>
#25
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Sorry for the top post, but:
Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
into the pan when not running.
2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
was an exception...they always worked.
3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
"Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
at the next oil change.
5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
use Fram again in a pinch.
6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
anti-drainback function.
Best Regards,
DAve
Earle Horton wrote:
> I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
>> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> least document it.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
>>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
>>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
>>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
>>> all along.
>
>
#26
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Hi Dave,
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
#27
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Hi Dave,
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
#28
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
Hi Dave,
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DaveW wrote:
>
> Sorry for the top post, but:
>
> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the following:
>
> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
> into the pan when not running.
>
> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
> was an exception...they always worked.
>
> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>
> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
> at the next oil change.
>
> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
> use Fram again in a pinch.
>
> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
> anti-drainback function.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DAve
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check valve
> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
> >> least document it.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just noticed
> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second or
> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my Jeep
> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to it
> >>> all along.
> >
> >
#29
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Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
I seen on the web where the Jeep 4 liter will accept the Ford V-8 filters
(FL-1)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D9B9D.A4149E5E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
> disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
> that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
> testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
> filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
> fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DaveW wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the top post, but:
>>
>> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
>> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
>> into the pan when not running.
>>
>> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
>> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
>> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
>> was an exception...they always worked.
>>
>> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
>> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
>> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>>
>> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
>> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
>> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
>> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
>> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
>> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
>> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
>> at the next oil change.
>>
>> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
>> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
>> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
>> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
>> use Fram again in a pinch.
>>
>> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
>> anti-drainback function.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> DAve
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check
>> >> valve
>> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> >> least document it.
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just
>> >>> noticed
>> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second
>> >>> or
>> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my
>> >>> Jeep
>> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to
>> >>> it
>> >>> all along.
>> >
>> >
(FL-1)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D9B9D.A4149E5E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
> disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
> that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
> testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
> filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
> fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DaveW wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the top post, but:
>>
>> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
>> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
>> into the pan when not running.
>>
>> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
>> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
>> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
>> was an exception...they always worked.
>>
>> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
>> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
>> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>>
>> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
>> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
>> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
>> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
>> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
>> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
>> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
>> at the next oil change.
>>
>> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
>> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
>> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
>> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
>> use Fram again in a pinch.
>>
>> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
>> anti-drainback function.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> DAve
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check
>> >> valve
>> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> >> least document it.
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just
>> >>> noticed
>> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second
>> >>> or
>> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my
>> >>> Jeep
>> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to
>> >>> it
>> >>> all along.
>> >
>> >
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question about oil pressure gauge in 04 Rubicon
I seen on the web where the Jeep 4 liter will accept the Ford V-8 filters
(FL-1)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D9B9D.A4149E5E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
> disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
> that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
> testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
> filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
> fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DaveW wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the top post, but:
>>
>> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
>> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
>> into the pan when not running.
>>
>> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
>> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
>> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
>> was an exception...they always worked.
>>
>> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
>> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
>> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>>
>> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
>> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
>> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
>> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
>> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
>> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
>> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
>> at the next oil change.
>>
>> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
>> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
>> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
>> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
>> use Fram again in a pinch.
>>
>> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
>> anti-drainback function.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> DAve
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check
>> >> valve
>> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> >> least document it.
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just
>> >>> noticed
>> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second
>> >>> or
>> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my
>> >>> Jeep
>> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to
>> >>> it
>> >>> all along.
>> >
>> >
(FL-1)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D9B9D.A4149E5E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> The spin-on part of the fram oil filter, the part where the flapper
> disk is located is probably the strongest of any of the makes as anyone
> that's tried to chisel off one that was installed with a wrench will
> testify. Only thing people may bad mouth the fram about is their
> filtration area is a little smaller, so I use the largest size that will
> fit: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DaveW wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the top post, but:
>>
>> Back when I used to drive Slant 6 cars (1980-1999), I noticed the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. On the Slant 6, just like the 4.0 Jeep, the filter sits upside down
>> so that gravity tends to make the oil flow back out of the filter and
>> into the pan when not running.
>>
>> 2. Despite the claims made here and elsewhere, based on my oil lights on
>> 3 vehicles over almost 20 years, Fram filters tended to hold pressure
>> overnight better than AC, Motocraft, Mopar, and a few others. Purelator
>> was an exception...they always worked.
>>
>> 3. Some, like AC, would work fine until a good long run at high speed.
>> After that, they would cause a delay in putting out the oil light when
>> starting. Some (mixed brands) had the same behavior from the first start.
>>
>> 4. I finally gave up on the Slant 6s and used Frams. Sure, the
>> construction of the anti-drainback valve may appear flimsy, but it
>> always worked unlike most others. Perhaps that cardboard/rubber flap
>> actually works better in service than the more logical systems used in
>> other filters. Several times, after an oil change, I had to replace
>> "Xbrand" filters with Fram to hold oil in the filter overnight. The
>> Frams always assured a quick oil light turnoff until they got replaced
>> at the next oil change.
>>
>> 5. On my XJ, after reading the assorted oil filter tests on the web, I
>> switched to Purelator and have not had a problem. But the only stores
>> that carry them locally, (Pep Boys) tend to run out of the proper
>> filter, so I have to buy several when they are actually in stock. I'd
>> use Fram again in a pinch.
>>
>> 6. I'm not commenting on the filter medium itself. Just the
>> anti-drainback function.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> DAve
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I'll bet he has a cheap Fram filter in it, or the equivalent.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:445C60FA.7F65D4C0@***.net...
>> >> That's very serious on a new car, could be just a stuck check
>> >> valve
>> >> that is replace with every oil filter. A change of oil may fix it, if
>> >> not take in to the Stealership and leave it over night for them to at
>> >> least document it.
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> HIPPIE-X@webtv.net wrote:
>> >>> I have a 2004 Rubicon with 20,000 miles and LOVE it! I have just
>> >>> noticed
>> >>> when I start the engine my oil pressure gauge stays at 0 for a second
>> >>> or
>> >>> two then slowly climbs to normal in about 5-10 seconds. I've had my
>> >>> Jeep
>> >>> for about 6 months and have never noticed it taking so long to get to
>> >>> normal pressure. Is this normal and I just wasn't paying attention to
>> >>> it
>> >>> all along.
>> >
>> >