Steve

noneyabusiness wrote:
> The first one I was *trying* to get good milage and got 14.x MPG.
> (A/C ON most of the time, little highway time.)

Might be time to clean the gunk from your throttle body.

> I also found a tire size calc
> (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos)
> that indicated that my oversized tires (235/75-15) cause my speedo to
> read about 4% under actual.
>
> Is the odometer affected to the same degree?

Yes, but the best test of exactly how much you are off is to clock
yourself on mile markers or a GPS. Depending on your model's
transmission ad diff gears, the 235s may actually be more 'on' than the
stock tires.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve

noneyabusiness wrote:
> The first one I was *trying* to get good milage and got 14.x MPG.
> (A/C ON most of the time, little highway time.)

Might be time to clean the gunk from your throttle body.

> I also found a tire size calc
> (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos)
> that indicated that my oversized tires (235/75-15) cause my speedo to
> read about 4% under actual.
>
> Is the odometer affected to the same degree?

Yes, but the best test of exactly how much you are off is to clock
yourself on mile markers or a GPS. Depending on your model's
transmission ad diff gears, the 235s may actually be more 'on' than the
stock tires.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve

noneyabusiness wrote:
> The first one I was *trying* to get good milage and got 14.x MPG.
> (A/C ON most of the time, little highway time.)

Might be time to clean the gunk from your throttle body.

> I also found a tire size calc
> (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos)
> that indicated that my oversized tires (235/75-15) cause my speedo to
> read about 4% under actual.
>
> Is the odometer affected to the same degree?

Yes, but the best test of exactly how much you are off is to clock
yourself on mile markers or a GPS. Depending on your model's
transmission ad diff gears, the 235s may actually be more 'on' than the
stock tires.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

noneyabusiness

Thanks to everyone who replied so far.
I forgot to mention that it's a 95 Cherokee Sport with part-time 4WD,
the 4 speed auto trans and the 4.0L engine.

Another question:
I have a tape deck head unit (w/ JEEP on the tape door cover) and a
"sound bar" across the roof in the back (no speakers in the tailgate).
The front door speaker grills have JENSEN on the frame.
Are these after market or factory?

Also, does this head unit have a separate amp (One installer said it
would cost more to install a cd head unit because of this)?


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:21:03 -0500, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Yes, you have an XJ More information of Jeep models is available here:
>http://www.ajeepthing.com/models/jeep_models.asp
>

This helped clear it up, thanks.

[snip]
>
>I am a strong proponent of Synthetic fluids, they have superior lubricating
>and cleaning capacities, especially in extremes, but have never used any
>Royal Purple Brand products.
>
>I read/watched a few of the posted tests on Royal Purple's web-site and was
>not impressed. The routine appears to be that several changes are made such
>as fluids (+ a tune up) or fluids (+ new exhaust components) or thermal
>imaging (+ a floor fan is running).
>
>An honest test would only change the test fluids and not other factors that
>are also known to increase engine power and decrease temperature.
>

I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
parts store person also swears by synthetics).

>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by them
>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>
>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell you
>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>engines.....

I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.

I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).

While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.

>
[snip]

....

noneyabusiness

Thanks to everyone who replied so far.
I forgot to mention that it's a 95 Cherokee Sport with part-time 4WD,
the 4 speed auto trans and the 4.0L engine.

Another question:
I have a tape deck head unit (w/ JEEP on the tape door cover) and a
"sound bar" across the roof in the back (no speakers in the tailgate).
The front door speaker grills have JENSEN on the frame.
Are these after market or factory?

Also, does this head unit have a separate amp (One installer said it
would cost more to install a cd head unit because of this)?


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:21:03 -0500, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Yes, you have an XJ More information of Jeep models is available here:
>http://www.ajeepthing.com/models/jeep_models.asp
>

This helped clear it up, thanks.

[snip]
>
>I am a strong proponent of Synthetic fluids, they have superior lubricating
>and cleaning capacities, especially in extremes, but have never used any
>Royal Purple Brand products.
>
>I read/watched a few of the posted tests on Royal Purple's web-site and was
>not impressed. The routine appears to be that several changes are made such
>as fluids (+ a tune up) or fluids (+ new exhaust components) or thermal
>imaging (+ a floor fan is running).
>
>An honest test would only change the test fluids and not other factors that
>are also known to increase engine power and decrease temperature.
>

I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
parts store person also swears by synthetics).

>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by them
>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>
>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell you
>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>engines.....

I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.

I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).

While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.

>
[snip]

....

noneyabusiness

Thanks to everyone who replied so far.
I forgot to mention that it's a 95 Cherokee Sport with part-time 4WD,
the 4 speed auto trans and the 4.0L engine.

Another question:
I have a tape deck head unit (w/ JEEP on the tape door cover) and a
"sound bar" across the roof in the back (no speakers in the tailgate).
The front door speaker grills have JENSEN on the frame.
Are these after market or factory?

Also, does this head unit have a separate amp (One installer said it
would cost more to install a cd head unit because of this)?


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:21:03 -0500, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Yes, you have an XJ More information of Jeep models is available here:
>http://www.ajeepthing.com/models/jeep_models.asp
>

This helped clear it up, thanks.

[snip]
>
>I am a strong proponent of Synthetic fluids, they have superior lubricating
>and cleaning capacities, especially in extremes, but have never used any
>Royal Purple Brand products.
>
>I read/watched a few of the posted tests on Royal Purple's web-site and was
>not impressed. The routine appears to be that several changes are made such
>as fluids (+ a tune up) or fluids (+ new exhaust components) or thermal
>imaging (+ a floor fan is running).
>
>An honest test would only change the test fluids and not other factors that
>are also known to increase engine power and decrease temperature.
>

I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
parts store person also swears by synthetics).

>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by them
>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>
>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell you
>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>engines.....

I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.

I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).

While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.

>
[snip]

....

Billy Ray

Where do you live? The reason I ask is that the name brand synthetics sell
for $4-$5 a quart here in the Cincinnati, Ohio area and as little as $3 when
on sale.


When I was in the auto-parts store last time to get filters for the WJ I
noticed that they carried paper filters that look to replace the K&N cone
'oiled" type. I guess the filter companies want to play both sides of the
street.


>>
>
> I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
> since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
> flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
> parts store person also swears by synthetics).
>
>>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by
>>them
>>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>>
>>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell
>>you
>>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>>engines.....
>
> I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
> years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.
>
> I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).
>
> While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
> air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.
>
>>
> [snip]
>
> ...

Billy Ray

Where do you live? The reason I ask is that the name brand synthetics sell
for $4-$5 a quart here in the Cincinnati, Ohio area and as little as $3 when
on sale.


When I was in the auto-parts store last time to get filters for the WJ I
noticed that they carried paper filters that look to replace the K&N cone
'oiled" type. I guess the filter companies want to play both sides of the
street.


>>
>
> I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
> since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
> flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
> parts store person also swears by synthetics).
>
>>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by
>>them
>>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>>
>>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell
>>you
>>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>>engines.....
>
> I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
> years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.
>
> I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).
>
> While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
> air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.
>
>>
> [snip]
>
> ...

Billy Ray

Where do you live? The reason I ask is that the name brand synthetics sell
for $4-$5 a quart here in the Cincinnati, Ohio area and as little as $3 when
on sale.


When I was in the auto-parts store last time to get filters for the WJ I
noticed that they carried paper filters that look to replace the K&N cone
'oiled" type. I guess the filter companies want to play both sides of the
street.


>>
>
> I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
> since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
> flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
> parts store person also swears by synthetics).
>
>>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by
>>them
>>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>>
>>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell
>>you
>>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>>engines.....
>
> I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
> years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.
>
> I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).
>
> While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
> air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.
>
>>
> [snip]
>
> ...

noneyabusiness

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 03:48:51 -0500, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Where do you live? The reason I ask is that the name brand synthetics sell
>for $4-$5 a quart here in the Cincinnati, Ohio area and as little as $3 when
>on sale.
>

So. Calif.
And I might have been generalizing a bit on the price of synthetics as
I really only saw the Mobile One and something else at around $8 or
so, so I ASSumed most others would be about that as well :/

>
>When I was in the auto-parts store last time to get filters for the WJ I
>noticed that they carried paper filters that look to replace the K&N cone
>'oiled" type. I guess the filter companies want to play both sides of the
>street.
>

Fram also makes the "Air Hawg". It's a clone of the K&N.
Someone else makes one now too, but the name escapes me ATM.

....

>
>>>
>>
>> I'm going to discuss it with my mechanic when I get a chance, but
>> since most synthetics *seem* to be around $10 a qt., I'll probably
>> flip a coin to decide which brand if I go with a synthetic (the local
>> parts store person also swears by synthetics).
>>
>>>As for K&N (& clones) filters you will find that people either swear by
>>>them
>>>or swear at them, no one who uses them is indifferent.
>>>
>>>You should be aware that K&N make more power by lowering the resistance in
>>>the air intake just like the advertisements claim. What they don't tell
>>>you
>>>is they have lower resistance because they only filter the very large
>>>particles, all the fine ones (that get trapped by a paper filter) go right
>>>through. I am sure someone will supply links to pix of K&N protected
>>>engines.....
>>
>> I've used a K&N air filter in my old Toyota pickup for most of the 15
>> years I drove it, and AFAIK it never caused any problems.
>>
>> I already bought one for the Jeep since it was on sale ($10 off).
>>
>> While in the store, I noticed that FRAM is selling an OILED *PAPER*
>> air filter for $12 ! I *almost* bought it.
>>
>>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> ...
>