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Ripley59 04-18-2007 07:18 AM

Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
not covered." Thanks for any advice!

DougW 04-18-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!



Think of it this way, the 3/36000 is bumper-to-bumper (minus the wear parts
like tires/brakes/battery) The 7/70 being powertrain is any driven or
driving part. Engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshafts, axles.
Any one of those will cost at least $100 to have the dealer look at.
I'd say it's money well spent for peace of mind. Unless you prefer to
do your own repairs. In which case you should get the service book now.

I got that on my 93 ZJ and used is many times to get the seals replaced
on the transmission and transfer case. The dealer didn't even flinch
at mods, but they did have to pry the techs away from time to time. :)

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 04-18-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!



Think of it this way, the 3/36000 is bumper-to-bumper (minus the wear parts
like tires/brakes/battery) The 7/70 being powertrain is any driven or
driving part. Engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshafts, axles.
Any one of those will cost at least $100 to have the dealer look at.
I'd say it's money well spent for peace of mind. Unless you prefer to
do your own repairs. In which case you should get the service book now.

I got that on my 93 ZJ and used is many times to get the seals replaced
on the transmission and transfer case. The dealer didn't even flinch
at mods, but they did have to pry the techs away from time to time. :)

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 04-18-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!



Think of it this way, the 3/36000 is bumper-to-bumper (minus the wear parts
like tires/brakes/battery) The 7/70 being powertrain is any driven or
driving part. Engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshafts, axles.
Any one of those will cost at least $100 to have the dealer look at.
I'd say it's money well spent for peace of mind. Unless you prefer to
do your own repairs. In which case you should get the service book now.

I got that on my 93 ZJ and used is many times to get the seals replaced
on the transmission and transfer case. The dealer didn't even flinch
at mods, but they did have to pry the techs away from time to time. :)

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 04-18-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!



Think of it this way, the 3/36000 is bumper-to-bumper (minus the wear parts
like tires/brakes/battery) The 7/70 being powertrain is any driven or
driving part. Engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshafts, axles.
Any one of those will cost at least $100 to have the dealer look at.
I'd say it's money well spent for peace of mind. Unless you prefer to
do your own repairs. In which case you should get the service book now.

I got that on my 93 ZJ and used is many times to get the seals replaced
on the transmission and transfer case. The dealer didn't even flinch
at mods, but they did have to pry the techs away from time to time. :)

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



jeff 04-18-2007 08:31 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


Mostly, if you break it you are going to buy it, however I took the
extended warranty on my '06 Rubicon Unlimited principally to get
coverage for the engine. There has been some history of head problems in
the '00 and newer 4.0s. At $150 to transfer, I'd go for it. Warranty
repairs of course have to be done at a dealer, but routine maintenance
can be done anywhere, as long as you keep records (receipts for oil and
filters and such).

--
jeff


jeff 04-18-2007 08:31 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


Mostly, if you break it you are going to buy it, however I took the
extended warranty on my '06 Rubicon Unlimited principally to get
coverage for the engine. There has been some history of head problems in
the '00 and newer 4.0s. At $150 to transfer, I'd go for it. Warranty
repairs of course have to be done at a dealer, but routine maintenance
can be done anywhere, as long as you keep records (receipts for oil and
filters and such).

--
jeff


jeff 04-18-2007 08:31 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


Mostly, if you break it you are going to buy it, however I took the
extended warranty on my '06 Rubicon Unlimited principally to get
coverage for the engine. There has been some history of head problems in
the '00 and newer 4.0s. At $150 to transfer, I'd go for it. Warranty
repairs of course have to be done at a dealer, but routine maintenance
can be done anywhere, as long as you keep records (receipts for oil and
filters and such).

--
jeff


jeff 04-18-2007 08:31 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


Mostly, if you break it you are going to buy it, however I took the
extended warranty on my '06 Rubicon Unlimited principally to get
coverage for the engine. There has been some history of head problems in
the '00 and newer 4.0s. At $150 to transfer, I'd go for it. Warranty
repairs of course have to be done at a dealer, but routine maintenance
can be done anywhere, as long as you keep records (receipts for oil and
filters and such).

--
jeff


twaldron 04-18-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


I don't have my warranty in front of me, but:

1.) Are you sure you have to 'transfer' the warranty? I assumed it was a
manufacturer's warranty that was instantly transferrable.

2.) If so, are you sure there is a _charge_ to transfer the warranty?

tw

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twaldron 04-18-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


I don't have my warranty in front of me, but:

1.) Are you sure you have to 'transfer' the warranty? I assumed it was a
manufacturer's warranty that was instantly transferrable.

2.) If so, are you sure there is a _charge_ to transfer the warranty?

tw

--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.

twaldron 04-18-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


I don't have my warranty in front of me, but:

1.) Are you sure you have to 'transfer' the warranty? I assumed it was a
manufacturer's warranty that was instantly transferrable.

2.) If so, are you sure there is a _charge_ to transfer the warranty?

tw

--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.

twaldron 04-18-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


I don't have my warranty in front of me, but:

1.) Are you sure you have to 'transfer' the warranty? I assumed it was a
manufacturer's warranty that was instantly transferrable.

2.) If so, are you sure there is a _charge_ to transfer the warranty?

tw

--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
'04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
worry about mine. :-)

Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
'04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
worry about mine. :-)

Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
'04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
worry about mine. :-)

Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
'04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
worry about mine. :-)

Ripley59 wrote:
> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
> not covered." Thanks for any advice!


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
basic powertrain
Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000

These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
packages from Chrysler or independent sources.

AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
kilometers instead of miles.

FrankW wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong
> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
>> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
>> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
>> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
>> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
>> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of
>> my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and
>> I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They
>> aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White
>> Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the
>> dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the
>> dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>
>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>
>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>>
>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
basic powertrain
Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000

These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
packages from Chrysler or independent sources.

AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
kilometers instead of miles.

FrankW wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong
> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
>> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
>> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
>> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
>> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
>> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of
>> my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and
>> I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They
>> aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White
>> Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the
>> dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the
>> dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>
>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>
>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>>
>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
basic powertrain
Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000

These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
packages from Chrysler or independent sources.

AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
kilometers instead of miles.

FrankW wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong
> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
>> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
>> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
>> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
>> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
>> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of
>> my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and
>> I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They
>> aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White
>> Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the
>> dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the
>> dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>
>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>
>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>>
>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
basic powertrain
Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000

These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
packages from Chrysler or independent sources.

AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
kilometers instead of miles.

FrankW wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong
> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
>> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
>> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
>> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
>> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
>> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of
>> my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and
>> I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They
>> aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White
>> Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the
>> dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the
>> dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>
>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>
>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>>
>>

>


--
FRH

FrankW 04-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Correct me if I'm wrong
But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)

Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
> '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
> didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
> exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
> Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
> picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
> worry about mine. :-)
>
> Ripley59 wrote:
>
>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>
>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Correct me if I'm wrong
But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)

Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
> '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
> didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
> exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
> Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
> picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
> worry about mine. :-)
>
> Ripley59 wrote:
>
>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>
>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Correct me if I'm wrong
But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)

Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
> '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
> didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
> exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
> Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
> picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
> worry about mine. :-)
>
> Ripley59 wrote:
>
>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>
>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Correct me if I'm wrong
But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)

Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty,
> but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train
> component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under
> the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The
> dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this
> before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my
> '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I
> didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't
> exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain
> Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit
> picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't
> worry about mine. :-)
>
> Ripley59 wrote:
>
>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!

>
>



Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
$150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)

FrankW wrote:
> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> basic powertrain
>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>>
>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>
>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
$150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)

FrankW wrote:
> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> basic powertrain
>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>>
>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>
>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
$150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)

FrankW wrote:
> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> basic powertrain
>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>>
>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>
>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
$150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)

FrankW wrote:
> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>
>> basic powertrain
>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>> years/36,000
>>
>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>
>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>


--
FRH

Earle Horton 04-18-2007 12:36 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?

Earle

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>
> FrankW wrote:
> > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> > to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> > Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
> >
> >
> > Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >
> >> basic powertrain
> >> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >>
> >> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> >> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
> >>
> >> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
> >> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
> >> use kilometers instead of miles.
> >>
> >> FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong
> >>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> >>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
> >>>
> >>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
> >>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
> >>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
> >>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
> >>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
> >>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
> >>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
> >>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
> >>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
> >>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
> >>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
> >>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ripley59 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> >>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> >>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> >>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> >>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> >>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> >>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> >>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> >>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> >>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

to
> >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

its
> >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
> --
> FRH




Earle Horton 04-18-2007 12:36 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?

Earle

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>
> FrankW wrote:
> > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> > to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> > Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
> >
> >
> > Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >
> >> basic powertrain
> >> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >>
> >> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> >> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
> >>
> >> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
> >> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
> >> use kilometers instead of miles.
> >>
> >> FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong
> >>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> >>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
> >>>
> >>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
> >>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
> >>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
> >>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
> >>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
> >>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
> >>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
> >>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
> >>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
> >>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
> >>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
> >>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ripley59 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> >>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> >>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> >>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> >>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> >>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> >>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> >>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> >>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> >>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

to
> >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

its
> >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
> --
> FRH




Earle Horton 04-18-2007 12:36 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?

Earle

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>
> FrankW wrote:
> > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> > to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> > Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
> >
> >
> > Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >
> >> basic powertrain
> >> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >>
> >> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> >> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
> >>
> >> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
> >> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
> >> use kilometers instead of miles.
> >>
> >> FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong
> >>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> >>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
> >>>
> >>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
> >>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
> >>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
> >>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
> >>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
> >>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
> >>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
> >>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
> >>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
> >>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
> >>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
> >>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ripley59 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> >>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> >>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> >>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> >>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> >>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> >>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> >>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> >>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> >>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

to
> >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

its
> >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
> --
> FRH




Earle Horton 04-18-2007 12:36 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?

Earle

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>
> FrankW wrote:
> > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
> > to transfer the powertrain warranty?
> > Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
> > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
> > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
> >
> >
> > Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >
> >> basic powertrain
> >> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> >> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
> >> years/36,000
> >>
> >> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> >> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
> >>
> >> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
> >> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
> >> use kilometers instead of miles.
> >>
> >> FrankW wrote:
> >>
> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong
> >>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
> >>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
> >>>
> >>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
> >>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
> >>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
> >>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
> >>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
> >>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
> >>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
> >>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
> >>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
> >>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
> >>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
> >>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ripley59 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
> >>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
> >>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
> >>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
> >>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
> >>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
> >>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
> >>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
> >>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
> >>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

to
> >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

its
> >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
> --
> FRH




FrankW 04-18-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
to transfer the powertrain warranty?
Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned


Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> basic powertrain
> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
>
> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>
> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
> about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
> kilometers instead of miles.
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>
>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your
>>> question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that
>>> depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>
>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>
>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
to transfer the powertrain warranty?
Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned


Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> basic powertrain
> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
>
> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>
> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
> about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
> kilometers instead of miles.
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>
>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your
>>> question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that
>>> depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>
>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>
>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
to transfer the powertrain warranty?
Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned


Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> basic powertrain
> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
>
> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>
> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
> about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
> kilometers instead of miles.
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>
>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your
>>> question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that
>>> depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>
>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>
>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>



FrankW 04-18-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
to transfer the powertrain warranty?
Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned


Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> basic powertrain
> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000
>
> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>
> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know
> about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use
> kilometers instead of miles.
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>
>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your
>>> question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that
>>> depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>
>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>
>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to
>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its
>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>



Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
For 2004 and 2005 regardless of where you bought it you can get the 7/70
as second owner for $150 if you do it BEFORE the basic 3/36 coverage
expires. I bought (stole) my '04 from a GMC dealer who didn't have a
clue about Jeep warranties. It had problems ;-) I got it cheap. I drove
it up the street to the Jeep dealer who did over $2k worth of warranty
work (3/36) without batting an eye. I'm sure not all Jeep dealers are
like this, but this is a small town and reputation means something. He
also ran my VIN and said I got under the wire for the "free" 7/70.

Earle Horton wrote:
> From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
> when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
> after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
> thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
> Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
> 7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?
>
> Earle
>
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
>> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
>> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
>> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
>> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
>> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
>> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
>> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
>> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
>> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
>>> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
>>> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
>>> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
>>> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> basic powertrain
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>>
>>>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>>>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>>>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>>>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

> to
>>>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

> its
>>>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>> --
>> FRH

>
>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
For 2004 and 2005 regardless of where you bought it you can get the 7/70
as second owner for $150 if you do it BEFORE the basic 3/36 coverage
expires. I bought (stole) my '04 from a GMC dealer who didn't have a
clue about Jeep warranties. It had problems ;-) I got it cheap. I drove
it up the street to the Jeep dealer who did over $2k worth of warranty
work (3/36) without batting an eye. I'm sure not all Jeep dealers are
like this, but this is a small town and reputation means something. He
also ran my VIN and said I got under the wire for the "free" 7/70.

Earle Horton wrote:
> From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
> when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
> after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
> thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
> Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
> 7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?
>
> Earle
>
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
>> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
>> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
>> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
>> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
>> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
>> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
>> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
>> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
>> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
>>> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
>>> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
>>> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
>>> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> basic powertrain
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>>
>>>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>>>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>>>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>>>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

> to
>>>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

> its
>>>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>> --
>> FRH

>
>


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 04-18-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
 
For 2004 and 2005 regardless of where you bought it you can get the 7/70
as second owner for $150 if you do it BEFORE the basic 3/36 coverage
expires. I bought (stole) my '04 from a GMC dealer who didn't have a
clue about Jeep warranties. It had problems ;-) I got it cheap. I drove
it up the street to the Jeep dealer who did over $2k worth of warranty
work (3/36) without batting an eye. I'm sure not all Jeep dealers are
like this, but this is a small town and reputation means something. He
also ran my VIN and said I got under the wire for the "free" 7/70.

Earle Horton wrote:
> From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers
> when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is
> after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this
> thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a
> Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the
> 7/70 power train warranty is void in that case?
>
> Earle
>
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:WHrVh.6894$B25.4382@news01.roc.ny...
>> Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture
>> date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual
>> it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of
>> $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember
>> the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't
>> transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just
>> the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If
>> you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty
>> packages these days. Much more than $150 :-)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>> So why would one have to pay 150 dollars
>>> to transfer the powertrain warranty?
>>> Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me.
>>> Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty"
>>> Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> basic powertrain
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000
>>>> Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3
>>>> years/36,000
>>>>
>>>> These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty
>>>> packages from Chrysler or independent sources.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't
>>>> know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably
>>>> use kilometers instead of miles.
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>> But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full
>>>>> warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70
>>>>>> warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive
>>>>>> train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and
>>>>>> was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer
>>>>>> fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you
>>>>>> must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the
>>>>>> manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle"
>>>>>> like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer"
>>>>>> to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're
>>>>>> honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to
>>>>>> your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess
>>>>>> that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ripley59 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005
>>>>>>> Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a
>>>>>>> Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me
>>>>>>> that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the
>>>>>>> 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years
>>>>>>> warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it
>>>>>>> one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to
>>>>>>> have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the
>>>>>>> dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh,
>>>>>>> this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote

> to
>>>>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that

> its
>>>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>> --
>> FRH

>
>


--
FRH


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