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Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am
contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I have a bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). Has anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold while going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop will charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? KH |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. My
wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold as my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up with the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway they can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think R12 is still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I have a > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). Has > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold while > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop will > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > KH > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
I'm with Jerry on this one. If you want cooling at 5 mph and 100 degree
temperatures, you want R12. You should still be able to get the system charged with R12, but it will cost more than R134a. It will be worth it though. Ever been to Mexico? I hear they will sell you all the R12 you want... Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:56i%a.521$Qy4.400@fed1read05... > Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. My > wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold as > my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up with > the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway they > can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think R12 is > still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I have > a > > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new > > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). > Has > > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold > while > > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop > will > > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > > KH > > > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
ditto
R134A isn't as effective as R12 & it is even worse in a R12 system...... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlo.jr@comcast.net '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bhkc0r$6sgl$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > I'm with Jerry on this one. If you want cooling at 5 mph and 100 degree > temperatures, you want R12. You should still be able to get the system > charged with R12, but it will cost more than R134a. It will be worth it > though. > > Ever been to Mexico? I hear they will sell you all the R12 you want... > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > news:56i%a.521$Qy4.400@fed1read05... > > Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. My > > wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold as > > my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up with > > the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway they > > can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think R12 > is > > still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > > > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > > > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I > have > > a > > > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new > > > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). > > Has > > > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold > > while > > > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop > > will > > > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > > > KH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
jerry, when did they stop using R12 in the wranglers. thanks john jr
Jerry Bransford wrote: > Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. My > wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold as > my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up with > the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway they > can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think R12 is > still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I have > a > > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new > > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). > Has > > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold > while > > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop > will > > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > > KH > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Kevin's Jeep is an '88. It was originally designed for R12 and shipped with
R12 in it. "What the system calls for" is R12. If he converts it to R134a, I don't think he will be happy. (I think new vehicles started shipping with R134a in 1993 or 1994, but don't quote that.) Earle "mctiger" <mctiger@nospam.com> wrote in message news:007sjvg5qnpvve0ccp2sp8l4rjtp9dv1ul@4ax.com... > Hi, > R-12 was discontinued because of FMVSS ( Federal Motor Vehicle > Safety Standards).The laws are enforced by and issued by NHTSA > (National Highway Traffic Safety administration.) They found that R-12 > eats away the ozone.Therefore it is bad for anyone. > A 134 system can not use R-12 instead of the proper R-134.It is a > different design.If you use R-12 -The sticker under the hood of your > jeep say's R-134 @ lps.Then you are committing a crime under the FMVVS > standards.You are only suppose to use what the system calls for,not > what may be better. > I hope my input helps you. > Good luck! > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:27:07 -0500, JEEP TJ <jeeptj@crtelco.com> > wrote: > > >jerry, when did they stop using R12 in the wranglers. thanks john jr > > > >Jerry Bransford wrote: > > > >> Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. My > >> wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold as > >> my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up with > >> the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway they > >> can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think R12 is > >> still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > >> > >> Jerry > >> -- > >> Jerry Bransford > >> To email, remove 'me' from my email address > >> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > >> See the Geezer Jeep at > >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > >> > >> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > >> > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > >> > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I have > >> a > >> > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a new > >> > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer etc.). > >> Has > >> > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be cold > >> while > >> > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a shop > >> will > >> > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > >> > KH > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come. |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
From what the AC shops have been telling me, If I need to get a new
compressor then I might as well replace all the other parts too and convert to 134. But R12 is 50 bucks a pound or so and The system only holds 2 or 2.5 lbs. So it sounds to me like fixing my R12 system would only theoretically cost about 100 bucks more that converting all the parts over to R134. I need all the cooling I can get here in SD. Maybe I will stay with R12. by the way, I decided to charge the thing with 75 bucks worth of R12 just to get it going again. The leaks are still there. I hope to get another year out of these parts before replacing them. I just dont have time now. My last charge lasted 3 or 4 years with the same compressor seal leak. The low side hose looks like it is going bad though. It has a few very tiny micro pinholes that seep oil. KH "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bhlj5r$opso$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > Kevin's Jeep is an '88. It was originally designed for R12 and shipped with > R12 in it. "What the system calls for" is R12. If he converts it to R134a, > I don't think he will be happy. > > (I think new vehicles started shipping with R134a in 1993 or 1994, but don't > quote that.) > > Earle > > "mctiger" <mctiger@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:007sjvg5qnpvve0ccp2sp8l4rjtp9dv1ul@4ax.com... > > Hi, > > R-12 was discontinued because of FMVSS ( Federal Motor Vehicle > > Safety Standards).The laws are enforced by and issued by NHTSA > > (National Highway Traffic Safety administration.) They found that R-12 > > eats away the ozone.Therefore it is bad for anyone. > > A 134 system can not use R-12 instead of the proper R-134.It is a > > different design.If you use R-12 -The sticker under the hood of your > > jeep say's R-134 @ lps.Then you are committing a crime under the FMVVS > > standards.You are only suppose to use what the system calls for,not > > what may be better. > > I hope my input helps you. > > Good luck! > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:27:07 -0500, JEEP TJ <jeeptj@crtelco.com> > > wrote: > > > > >jerry, when did they stop using R12 in the wranglers. thanks john jr > > > > > >Jerry Bransford wrote: > > > > > >> Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot temps. > My > > >> wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as cold > as > > >> my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up > with > > >> the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway > they > > >> can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think > R12 is > > >> still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > > >> > > >> Jerry > > >> -- > > >> Jerry Bransford > > >> To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > >> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > >> See the Geezer Jeep at > > >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > >> > > >> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >> news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > > >> > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > > >> > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. I > have > > >> a > > >> > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a > new > > >> > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer > etc.). > > >> Has > > >> > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be > cold > > >> while > > >> > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a > shop > > >> will > > >> > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > > >> > KH > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come. > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it came
time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant or air leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice valve. I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed too, then you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to R12 some day. Earle "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7ux%a.792$Qy4.483@fed1read05... > From what the AC shops have been telling me, If I need to get a new > compressor then I might as well replace all the other parts too and convert > to 134. But R12 is 50 bucks a pound or so and The system only holds 2 or 2.5 > lbs. So it sounds to me like fixing my R12 system would only theoretically > cost about 100 bucks more that converting all the parts over to R134. I need > all the cooling I can get here in SD. Maybe I will stay with R12. by the > way, I decided to charge the thing with 75 bucks worth of R12 just to get it > going again. The leaks are still there. I hope to get another year out of > these parts before replacing them. I just dont have time now. My last charge > lasted 3 or 4 years with the same compressor seal leak. The low side hose > looks like it is going bad though. It has a few very tiny micro pinholes > that seep oil. > KH > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message > news:bhlj5r$opso$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > > Kevin's Jeep is an '88. It was originally designed for R12 and shipped > with > > R12 in it. "What the system calls for" is R12. If he converts it to > R134a, > > I don't think he will be happy. > > > > (I think new vehicles started shipping with R134a in 1993 or 1994, but > don't > > quote that.) > > > > Earle > > > > "mctiger" <mctiger@nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:007sjvg5qnpvve0ccp2sp8l4rjtp9dv1ul@4ax.com... > > > Hi, > > > R-12 was discontinued because of FMVSS ( Federal Motor Vehicle > > > Safety Standards).The laws are enforced by and issued by NHTSA > > > (National Highway Traffic Safety administration.) They found that R-12 > > > eats away the ozone.Therefore it is bad for anyone. > > > A 134 system can not use R-12 instead of the proper R-134.It is a > > > different design.If you use R-12 -The sticker under the hood of your > > > jeep say's R-134 @ lps.Then you are committing a crime under the FMVVS > > > standards.You are only suppose to use what the system calls for,not > > > what may be better. > > > I hope my input helps you. > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:27:07 -0500, JEEP TJ <jeeptj@crtelco.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >jerry, when did they stop using R12 in the wranglers. thanks john jr > > > > > > > >Jerry Bransford wrote: > > > > > > > >> Kevin, R134 just isn't as effective as R12 is in the really hot > temps. > > My > > > >> wife's 2002 a/c in her JGC uses R134 and it doesn't put out air as > cold > > as > > > >> my '97 TJ does that uses R12. In fact, it was barely able to keep up > > with > > > >> the Las Vegas temps we encountered a few weeks ago. Is there anyway > > they > > > >> can repair yours AND use R12? I know the laws are strict but I think > > R12 is > > > >> still available for repairs if you're a certified a/c mechanic. > > > >> > > > >> Jerry > > > >> -- > > > >> Jerry Bransford > > > >> To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > >> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > >> See the Geezer Jeep at > > > >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > >> > > > >> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >> news:l2i%a.520$Qy4.321@fed1read05... > > > >> > Has anyone converted their older (1988 R12 system) to R134. I am > > > >> > contemplating converting mine since its new compressor time for me. > I > > have > > > >> a > > > >> > bad hose and a bad front compressor seal leak. I would be getting a > > new > > > >> > compressor and replacing all the other parts too. (receiver/dryer > > etc.). > > > >> Has > > > >> > anyone done this to an older Jeep? Did it work? I need mine to be > > cold > > > >> while > > > >> > going 5mph in rough terrain and 100 degree temps. I am guessing a > > shop > > > >> will > > > >> > charge me about 800 US dollars for this job. Does that sound right? > > > >> > KH > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come. > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
"Earle Horton" wrote ...
> My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it came > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant or air > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice valve. > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed too, then > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to R12 > some day. My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day here in Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black one though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's Mercedes was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as when it was running on R12... |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
"Kevin in San Diego" wrote ...
> One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even when > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I've noticed that also... The relay for my electric fan has been sticking and I need to periodically jiggle it after stopping the vehicle so that it won't keep running after I'm through driving it... It will run to the point where the battery is just barely able to turn over the engine the next time I'm ready to start it... When I have to open the hood, it is hot enough that I need leather gloves... Part of that is the engine temperature, part of that is that the vehicle is painted black and this is Houston during the summer... |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
I seem to remember that changing to the newer style of condenser is supposed
to help with the help of a rotary a/c compressor. I converted a 92 Jetta (rotary compressor) to R134a after installing a new "stock" condenser and receiver/dryer and am very happy with the results. I converted an Audi 4000S (piston compressor) to R134a and it is about as weak as it was with R12. :-( It also had received a new condenser recently and a new receiver/dryer. I have to repair my 88 GW's a/c system and convert to R134a. I think it needs the compressor removed, oil drained out and system flushed. Maybe next year. :-) later, dave "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bhma0u$uvb7$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it came > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant or air > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice valve. > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed too, then > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to R12 > some day. > > Earle > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
LOL the death kit. Someone tried that on my motorhome before I got it and
black death ensued. The orifice was a big nasty black mess. KH "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net... > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit from > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now without any > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to make an > offer. > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05... > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole new > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines, everything. I > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine. > > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even when > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134 in > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If I do > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors different > in > > design from R134 ones? > > KH > > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in > message > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ... > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ... > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it > > came > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant > or > > > air > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice > > valve. > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed > too, > > > then > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to > R12 > > > > some day. > > > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day here > > in > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black one > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's > Mercedes > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as when it > > was > > > running on R12... > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Too far. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on that stuff either.
KH "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net... > Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ. > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05... > > Where do you live? > > > > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message > > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net... > > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit > from > > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now without > > any > > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to > make > > an > > > offer. > > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05... > > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole > new > > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines, everything. > I > > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine. > > > > > > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even > > when > > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134 in > > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If I > > do > > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors > > different > > > in > > > > design from R134 ones? > > > > KH > > > > > > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in > > > message > > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ... > > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ... > > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when > > it > > > > came > > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no > refrigerant > > > or > > > > > air > > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering > orifice > > > > valve. > > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed > > > too, > > > > > then > > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back > to > > > R12 > > > > > > some day. > > > > > > > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day > > here > > > > in > > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black > > one > > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's > > > Mercedes > > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as > when > > it > > > > was > > > > > running on R12... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Too far. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on that stuff either.
KH "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net... > Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ. > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05... > > Where do you live? > > > > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message > > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net... > > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit > from > > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now without > > any > > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to > make > > an > > > offer. > > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05... > > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole > new > > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines, everything. > I > > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine. > > > > > > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even > > when > > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134 in > > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If I > > do > > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors > > different > > > in > > > > design from R134 ones? > > > > KH > > > > > > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in > > > message > > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ... > > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ... > > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when > > it > > > > came > > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no > refrigerant > > > or > > > > > air > > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering > orifice > > > > valve. > > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed > > > too, > > > > > then > > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back > to > > > R12 > > > > > > some day. > > > > > > > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day > > here > > > > in > > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black > > one > > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's > > > Mercedes > > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as > when > > it > > > > was > > > > > running on R12... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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