PS question
09-19-2005, 07:39 PM
#11
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Re: PS question
I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
09-19-2005, 07:39 PM
#12
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Re: PS question
I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
09-19-2005, 07:39 PM
#13
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Re: PS question
I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
radius with my full width axles.
Will Honea wrote:
> Thanks, Doug. At least things are a little more accessible with the
> fender and grill headers off. I can't believe how much I had to
> remove to get that @#$%^ fender off. I'm hoping for a hose leak -
> lots cheaper and easier to do that replacing the steering gear -
> especially the pitman arm.
>
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:31:43 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>
>>Will Honea did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>>About a week back, I noticed a (new) small drip on the driveway.
>>>Couple of days later, the PS fluid was a little low. Pulled the MJ
>>>into the garage to repair a bit of tree rash on the fender and found a
>>>big puddle the next morning. The PS is losing fluid fairly rapidly
>>>and appears to be losing it just sitting. Will a steering gear seal
>>>go bad that fast and allow a gravity drain? How about a hole in the
>>>hose? I don't see an obvious leak when I crank the wheel with the
>>>engine running but the hoses and gear are pretty well buried from
>>>sight with the skid plate and mud panel in place so I thought i'd ask
>>>before I start pulling pieces.
>>
>>Usually it's a hose and most often the return line.
>>A leak in the pressure line will spray fluid all over the place.
>>Leaks can happen in the O ring between the fluid reservoir and
>>the pump.
>>
>>Your going to have to get in there and wipe everything down and clean
>>it up, top off the fluid and idle it for a bit. Then go back and find
>>your leak.
>>
>
>
>
09-19-2005, 07:51 PM
#14
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Re: PS question
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
09-19-2005, 07:51 PM
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Re: PS question
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
09-19-2005, 07:51 PM
#16
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Re: PS question
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
Haven't done one of those, just the pump and hoses.
Good for pics:
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/tech/saginaw/
Toys.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ring/index.asp
:) http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...m_tj/index.asp
http://www.agrperformance.com/
--
DougW
09-19-2005, 08:50 PM
#17
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Re: PS question
You may replace it in place if you feel you have enough room. A
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
09-19-2005, 08:50 PM
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: PS question
You may replace it in place if you feel you have enough room. A
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
09-19-2005, 08:50 PM
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: PS question
You may replace it in place if you feel you have enough room. A
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
If you don't have a good parts guy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
> a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
> tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
> need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
> radius with my full width axles.
09-19-2005, 09:17 PM
#20
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Re: PS question
Great *.pdf file Bill, Thanks - that confirms it, my adjustor plug seal
is shot. I could possibly repair in place on my CJ7, but I think I will
remove the gear box anyway. I have been waiting for an excuse to upgrade.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You may replace it in place if you feel you have enough room. A
> little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
> http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
> If you don't have a good parts guy.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>
>>I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
>>a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
>>tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
>>need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
>>radius with my full width axles.
is shot. I could possibly repair in place on my CJ7, but I think I will
remove the gear box anyway. I have been waiting for an excuse to upgrade.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You may replace it in place if you feel you have enough room. A
> little snap ring backs the seal. Similar Saginaw, but punier shafts:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf Seal kit:
> http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/st...-459_2103.html
> If you don't have a good parts guy.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>
>>I got same problem today. I wiped everything down and now I know I have
>>a leak where the steering arm enters the gear box. I am turning 36"
>>tires on dana 44 front axle with the original 24 year old gear box. I
>>need advice on what gear box to replace with to get a better turning
>>radius with my full width axles.