PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
07-07-2004, 12:51 PM
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PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
Thanks,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
Thanks,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:32 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
Hi Mike,
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:32 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
Hi Mike,
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:32 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
Hi Mike,
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:32 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
Hi Mike,
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
>
> He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
>
> The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:47 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:47 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:47 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 06:47 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
less, more on the less, but...
Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> >
> > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> >
> > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-07-2004, 07:47 PM
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Re: PS Fluid for a 98 TJ?
Hi Mike,
TJ Power Steering: http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf
I buy Prestone by the gallon, it's cheaper than the pints, for my
street cars: http://www.----------.com/PSFluid.jpg
Real Jeeps use Armstrong steering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
>
> I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
> the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
>
> It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
> less, more on the less, but...
>
> Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> > fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> > your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> > metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> > pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> > >
> > > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> > >
> > > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
TJ Power Steering: http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf
I buy Prestone by the gallon, it's cheaper than the pints, for my
street cars: http://www.----------.com/PSFluid.jpg
Real Jeeps use Armstrong steering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> He has the TJ box, not like my Saganaw and I don't know the fluid.
>
> I 'Really' don't want to help him only change a seal if the bearing is
> the issue. 'I' think it is a fluid issue, hence this thread.
>
> It is a TJ, same basic box, pitman and gear like the old Jeeps more or
> less, more on the less, but...
>
> Do you maybe have a link on the fluid specs for a TJ?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > We used to get away with Automatic Transmission Fluid back in the
> > fifties, where the GM Saginaw box you're work on came from, so maybe
> > your friend got away with it, too. Did you see the fluid, did it have
> > metallic flakes in it? Like what happens instantly to today's rack and
> > pinion, as air bubbles are pumped through it and the lubrication fails.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > A friend has a 98 TJ that has a badly blown input seal in his PS box.
> > >
> > > He doesn't know what he should be using for fluid so has been putting
> > > ATF in it since he changed the seal a couple years ago.
> > >
> > > The seal repair has failed and I am wondering if he should be getting a
> > > new bearing maybe because it is worn causing the failure, or if it is
> > > just the wrong fluid killing the seal.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's