A progress report on Mr. Deutz
01-19-2006, 06:22 PM
#41
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-19-2006, 06:22 PM
#42
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-19-2006, 06:22 PM
#43
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> KJ.Kate wrote:
> > Whoops... should have been
> > Seriously Bret what are you going to put it in....?
>
> Originally I thought I'd buy a cheap Jeep, now I'm not as sure. It's
> going to be an expensive project no matter what, night as well do it
> right. A TJ would be the best home for it overall, I think.
>
> I haven't taken pictures...I might, but where would i put them?
There is the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 that is pretty
unused and lots of free sites.
I use Sony's ImageStation as do a lot of folks here. You have to watch
them though, they 'now' allow viewing by non members as they 'used' to,
but they switched for a while and were useless. I guess enough
complaints got action?
They are at http://www.imagestation.com You can check out the photo
albums in my sig line link to see their formats.
I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-20-2006, 10:57 AM
#44
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Mike Romain wrote:
<<snip>>
> I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
>
My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
class recip and turbine twins.
01-20-2006, 10:57 AM
#45
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Mike Romain wrote:
<<snip>>
> I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
>
My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
class recip and turbine twins.
01-20-2006, 10:57 AM
#46
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Mike Romain wrote:
<<snip>>
> I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
>
My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
class recip and turbine twins.
01-20-2006, 12:42 PM
#47
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-20-2006, 12:42 PM
#48
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-20-2006, 12:42 PM
#49
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a vintage
> > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> >
>
> My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
>
> I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> class recip and turbine twins.
I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
the windshield ice free on the inside.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-20-2006, 02:59 PM
#50
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Re: A progress report on Mr. Deutz
These things will actually supply cabin heat, if maintained properly. That
"if" is a big one. If not, they will shoot a three foot flame out the wheel
well, do nothing, or asphyxiate everyone inside the cabin. Like anything
else automotive, they will probably not work properly if repaired with
anything other than genuine replacement parts or the equivalent.
That said, Espar seems to be the current place to buy a new unit. The first
link is to the supplemental air heaters. The second is to the coolant
heater, which could be used in conjunction with the existing cabin heater,
to make a stand alone hydronic heating system, or be the boiler for Bret's
Jeep.
http://www.espar.com/htm/airheat.htm
http://www.espar.com/htm/Specs/water/wterheat.htm
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D12120.D755B090@sympatico.ca...
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > <<snip>>
> >
> > > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a
vintage
> > > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> > >
> >
> > My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> > out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> > REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> > They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> > think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
> >
> > I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> > think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> > class recip and turbine twins.
>
> I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
> it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
>
> When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
> the windshield ice free on the inside.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"if" is a big one. If not, they will shoot a three foot flame out the wheel
well, do nothing, or asphyxiate everyone inside the cabin. Like anything
else automotive, they will probably not work properly if repaired with
anything other than genuine replacement parts or the equivalent.
That said, Espar seems to be the current place to buy a new unit. The first
link is to the supplemental air heaters. The second is to the coolant
heater, which could be used in conjunction with the existing cabin heater,
to make a stand alone hydronic heating system, or be the boiler for Bret's
Jeep.
http://www.espar.com/htm/airheat.htm
http://www.espar.com/htm/Specs/water/wterheat.htm
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D12120.D755B090@sympatico.ca...
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > <<snip>>
> >
> > > I live up in the Great White North and unless I was restoring a
vintage
> > > VW Bug, there is no way I would try to run an air cooled engine. I am
> > > too used to having real hot heat now in my CJ7. I kinda like it. :-)
> > >
> >
> > My brother has a Type III (Squareback) with the Eberspacher gas heater
> > out of an old Type II (bus). They live in South Dakota and when it gets
> > REALLY cold it's the only vehicle they own that starts every time!
> > They use synthetic oil and a huge surplus aircraft nicad battery. I
> > think if the engine doesn't start they just drive it on the starter.
> >
> > I'm doing my homework now on "gas" heaters that also run on diesel. I
> > think they will since South Wind aircraft heaters are common to cabin
> > class recip and turbine twins.
>
> I remember the VW gas heater... Hit the switch just right on that and
> it would send a 3' shot of flame out the front wheelwell...
>
> When it did actually work, I still needed a scraper in one hand to keep
> the windshield ice free on the inside.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)