Mike Romain

Check the front of the t-case first. You have a twin linkage there so
you 'could' run a twin stick shifter. One of the pins/link rods
controls front wheel or rear wheel drive, the other controls high or low
or 2 WD.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> OK - there I was, driving along about 35mph on paved road. Heard
> something pop like the tranny popped out of gear, and then there was
> no forward motivation. rolled into a parking lot and determined that
> I could move forward and reverse in 4-low - but not move at all in 4hi
> or 2wd.
>
> This is with a 82 cj7 I6, T5, 300transfer case.
>
> I was only a few blocks from home, so I drove home in 4lo - was able
> to row through all 5 gears in 4lo smoothly like usual (so tranny is
> good?)
>
> After some more testing, I find that I get no rear drive shaft action.
> I can move forward and reverse in 4hi if I lock the front hubs.
>
> T-case right?
> How bad does this sound? any chance it's linkage or do I need to go
> into the t-case?
> I appreciate any suggestions...

Mike Romain

Check the front of the t-case first. You have a twin linkage there so
you 'could' run a twin stick shifter. One of the pins/link rods
controls front wheel or rear wheel drive, the other controls high or low
or 2 WD.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> OK - there I was, driving along about 35mph on paved road. Heard
> something pop like the tranny popped out of gear, and then there was
> no forward motivation. rolled into a parking lot and determined that
> I could move forward and reverse in 4-low - but not move at all in 4hi
> or 2wd.
>
> This is with a 82 cj7 I6, T5, 300transfer case.
>
> I was only a few blocks from home, so I drove home in 4lo - was able
> to row through all 5 gears in 4lo smoothly like usual (so tranny is
> good?)
>
> After some more testing, I find that I get no rear drive shaft action.
> I can move forward and reverse in 4hi if I lock the front hubs.
>
> T-case right?
> How bad does this sound? any chance it's linkage or do I need to go
> into the t-case?
> I appreciate any suggestions...

Mike Romain

Check the front of the t-case first. You have a twin linkage there so
you 'could' run a twin stick shifter. One of the pins/link rods
controls front wheel or rear wheel drive, the other controls high or low
or 2 WD.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> OK - there I was, driving along about 35mph on paved road. Heard
> something pop like the tranny popped out of gear, and then there was
> no forward motivation. rolled into a parking lot and determined that
> I could move forward and reverse in 4-low - but not move at all in 4hi
> or 2wd.
>
> This is with a 82 cj7 I6, T5, 300transfer case.
>
> I was only a few blocks from home, so I drove home in 4lo - was able
> to row through all 5 gears in 4lo smoothly like usual (so tranny is
> good?)
>
> After some more testing, I find that I get no rear drive shaft action.
> I can move forward and reverse in 4hi if I lock the front hubs.
>
> T-case right?
> How bad does this sound? any chance it's linkage or do I need to go
> into the t-case?
> I appreciate any suggestions...

matthewf

Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
cap. It was on the passenger side outside.

The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
(which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.

Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
bearing cap.

The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-

So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
a hack job.

So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?

Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
fit?
Thanks

matthewf

Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
cap. It was on the passenger side outside.

The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
(which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.

Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
bearing cap.

The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-

So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
a hack job.

So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?

Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
fit?
Thanks

matthewf

Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
cap. It was on the passenger side outside.

The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
(which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.

Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
bearing cap.

The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-

So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
a hack job.

So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?

Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
fit?
Thanks

matthewf

Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
cap. It was on the passenger side outside.

The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
(which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.

Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
bearing cap.

The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-

So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
a hack job.

So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?

Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
fit?
Thanks

Mike Romain

Yup, bushings.

Yours sound right.

The shifter is supposed to sit outside on the passenger side. The two
forks the bolt goes through are supposed to have nylon bushings in
them. These holes are about 1/16" bigger then the hole in the shifter.

The shifter then just sits on the end with a nut holding it on.

I am thinking that one of the pins has let go from the shifter to the
two moving rods.

One rod controls front or rear wheel drive, the other rod controls 4
high or low or 2.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
> What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
> itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
> cap. It was on the passenger side outside.
>
> The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
> shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
> they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
> (which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.
>
> Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
> and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
> bearing cap.
>
> The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-
>
> So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
> not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
> ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
> a hack job.
>
> So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
> linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
> t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?
>
> Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
> fit?
> Thanks

Mike Romain

Yup, bushings.

Yours sound right.

The shifter is supposed to sit outside on the passenger side. The two
forks the bolt goes through are supposed to have nylon bushings in
them. These holes are about 1/16" bigger then the hole in the shifter.

The shifter then just sits on the end with a nut holding it on.

I am thinking that one of the pins has let go from the shifter to the
two moving rods.

One rod controls front or rear wheel drive, the other rod controls 4
high or low or 2.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
> What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
> itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
> cap. It was on the passenger side outside.
>
> The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
> shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
> they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
> (which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.
>
> Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
> and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
> bearing cap.
>
> The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-
>
> So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
> not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
> ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
> a hack job.
>
> So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
> linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
> t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?
>
> Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
> fit?
> Thanks

Mike Romain

Yup, bushings.

Yours sound right.

The shifter is supposed to sit outside on the passenger side. The two
forks the bolt goes through are supposed to have nylon bushings in
them. These holes are about 1/16" bigger then the hole in the shifter.

The shifter then just sits on the end with a nut holding it on.

I am thinking that one of the pins has let go from the shifter to the
two moving rods.

One rod controls front or rear wheel drive, the other rod controls 4
high or low or 2.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

matthewf wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Gents.
> What I found when i dropped the skidplate is that the shift lever
> itself was NOT passing through the two 'ears' on the front bearing
> cap. It was on the passenger side outside.
>
> The reason being that the hole in the shift lever where the shift
> shaft is supposed to go through, is too small for the shift shaft. So
> they stuck just the threaded end of the shift shaft through the hole
> (which fits) and got the nut on about two threads worth.
>
> Really bizaar. The shift shaft is about a 16th larger than .5" dia.
> and it fits correctly (snuggly, no slop) in the holes in the front
> bearing cap.
>
> The hole in shift lever itself is about a 16th smaller than .5" dia.-
>
> So since the shift shaft fits, it looks like the shift lever itself is
> not the right one? and they twisted it so it would sit outside the
> ears, where the smaller dia. threads would fit through the hole. What
> a hack job.
>
> So before I go in and look at internals I think I should get this
> linkage fixed up. looks like I need to get a new shifter for a 300
> t-case that will hopefully have the right dia. hole?
>
> Am I missing something here that would explain why these parts don't
> fit?
> Thanks