Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
09-24-2006, 03:22 AM
#11
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 03:22 AM
#12
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 03:22 AM
#13
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
just jammed it in.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks BIll,
>
> It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
>
> Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
>
> THanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#14
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You can get at the connection for the fuel gauge in the front of your
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#15
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You can get at the connection for the fuel gauge in the front of your
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#16
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
You can get at the connection for the fuel gauge in the front of your
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
gas tank. I would start there with a multimeter to see what is coming
out of the tank sender and to make sure they hooked up the ground.
'I' think they screwed up. I don't buy the coincidence of the dash
dying at the same time as they were messing with the sender.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had a new fuel pump put in my 90 4.0L XJ and my fuel gauge
> is not working. I took it back to the shop that installed and they
> supposedly checked it out with another gauge which worked so they
> thought it was my gauge.
>
> I went to the junkyard and got 2 fuel gauges from a 90 and an 88 XJ. I
> pulled out my instrument cluster and installed them and nothing....the
> gauge goes all the way past Full to horizontal! I pulled the connector
> from the sending unit and it did not go to Full as it should, and then
> I read an Alldata that the harness wires #15 and 17 should read 0-88
> ohms and it did. The only thing I can think now is that the plastic
> circuit board thing on the back of the cluster is bad.
>
> I am thinking about taking it to the dealer but that could be $$$$$. I
> have also contemplated getting a whole cluster from another rig and
> trying that.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> LTK
09-24-2006, 10:08 AM
#17
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
09-24-2006, 10:08 AM
#18
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
09-24-2006, 10:08 AM
#19
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> just jammed it in.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks BIll,
> >
> > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> >
> > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > LTK
09-24-2006, 11:43 AM
#20
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Re: Problem with Fuel Gauge...need advice
Thanks Mike,
I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
resistance is different.
Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
I was overjoyed to hear that!
Thanks again for your help,
LTK
Mike Romain wrote:
> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> > just jammed it in.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks BIll,
> > >
> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> > >
> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> > >
> > > THanks,
> > >
> > > LTK
I found on another post that the polarity of the sender was changed in
1991 and even though the new one has the right part number and since
the polarity has changed it will not work. The post said to take out
the pump and reverse the wiring but it will not be accurate since the
resistance is different.
Oh and if you recall I was having problems with stalling and bucking.
I changed my spark plugs to Champions and most of the problems went
away. It still sometimes cuts out but does not stall. When I took it
to the shop to have them "fix" the gauge they said that there might be
a short and it would need to get worse before they could diagnose it.
I was overjoyed to hear that!
Thanks again for your help,
LTK
Mike Romain wrote:
> Not on his Bill. He has an AMC Jeep with the pump in the front of the
> tank. It took Chrysler to pull the drop the tank scam.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > You have to drop the tank, last time I did that I swore I'd let
> > them do it if it's ing the hundred dollar range. And I can understand
> > how your mechanic lost their patience threading back into place, and
> > just jammed it in.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ltkaknm@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks BIll,
> > >
> > > It seems lke the shop does want to do too much more with this fuel
> > > pump....I am not sure I am happy with their service.
> > >
> > > Is it a relatively easy procedure to extract the fuel pump?
> > >
> > > THanks,
> > >
> > > LTK