Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.

And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
(I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"

So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
than likely going to use it as a daily driver?

Cheers

Ryan



On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:21:53 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> But suppose you run into her driving '69 Lincoln, head on one of your
>high speed turns?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
family!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com...
> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>
> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>
> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
family!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com...
> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>
> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>
> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
family!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com...
> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>
> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>
> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
family!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com...
> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>
> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>
> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good day,

As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
I too want the best for them by every means.
I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
Is it done to just piss people like you off?
No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.

We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
they can't/don't have any performance...
Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
tonne BS.

Have a nice weekend.

Ryan Heibloem
Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:23:47 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
>three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
>have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
> What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
>trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
>do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
>an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
>the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
>physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
>family!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com.. .
>> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
>> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>>
>> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
>> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
>> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
>> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
>> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
>> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
>> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
>> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
>> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
>> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
>> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
>> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
>> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>>
>> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
>> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
>> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good day,

As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
I too want the best for them by every means.
I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
Is it done to just piss people like you off?
No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.

We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
they can't/don't have any performance...
Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
tonne BS.

Have a nice weekend.

Ryan Heibloem
Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:23:47 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
>three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
>have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
> What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
>trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
>do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
>an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
>the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
>physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
>family!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com.. .
>> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
>> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>>
>> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
>> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
>> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
>> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
>> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
>> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
>> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
>> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
>> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
>> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
>> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
>> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
>> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>>
>> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
>> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
>> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good day,

As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
I too want the best for them by every means.
I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
Is it done to just piss people like you off?
No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.

We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
they can't/don't have any performance...
Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
tonne BS.

Have a nice weekend.

Ryan Heibloem
Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:23:47 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
>three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
>have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
> What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
>trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
>do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
>an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
>the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
>physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
>family!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com.. .
>> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
>> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>>
>> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
>> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
>> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
>> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
>> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
>> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
>> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
>> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
>> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
>> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
>> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
>> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
>> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>>
>> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
>> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
>> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good day,

As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
I too want the best for them by every means.
I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
Is it done to just piss people like you off?
No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.

We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
they can't/don't have any performance...
Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
tonne BS.

Have a nice weekend.

Ryan Heibloem
Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:23:47 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Have you raised a daughter? I just wanted mine to live, so she got a
>three ton learner. After a couple of years without killing anyone, she could
>have bought a murdercycle, if she wished.
> What a stupid research done by bleeding heart liberal whacko limps,
>trying to sell on dinky little cars, which when run into a concrete barrier
>do, OK with their built in sacrificial crush zones, but when hit head on by
>an REAL American car find themselves going backwards and the same speed as
>the car they unfortunately hit. A basic law of kinetic, inertia energy in
>physics. You greenies may kill your offspring, for Bore's causes, but not my
>family!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:bgj33392ak28dirprkgok9dit3hvroutag@4ax.com.. .
>> We are talking about a "Daily driver" here.
>> There still is nothing wrong with a Jeep Liberty for that purpose.
>>
>> And suppose that you Mr. ------ The Third, were driving "that" '69
>> Lincoln (with suicide doors of course), and were unfortunately
>> involved in that " head on" accident with a Jeep Liberty? Chances are
>> (I've done extensive research on the Internet and in independent
>> sources over the past 25 years regarding automotive collisions that
>> cause bodily harm) that indicates that the occupants of the " 1969
>> Ford/Mercury Lincoln would be critically injured or a fatality due to
>> the fact that the grossly inadequate lap belts were even used !
>> Back then an automobile was built for aesthetics, not safety.
>> Today's vehicles are designed with safety first. And that's a fact!
>> That's why airbags were implemented, for all you folks below the 49th
>> parallel who do not "think" a seatbelt is necessary and "I won't get
>> into an accident because I'm a better driver than the rest"
>>
>> So, now, at the end of the day... What is wrong with a Jeep Liberty
>> for a young lady who just aced her drivers licence exam and is more
>> than likely going to use it as a daily driver?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- "Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:mq6533pkniab1b6j5d2d0pusd8o0e87f2t@4ax.com...
> Good day,
>
> As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
> I too want the best for them by every means.
> I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
> millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
> If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
> automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
> Is it done to just piss people like you off?
> No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
> plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.
>
> We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
> matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
> Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
> they can't/don't have any performance...
> Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
> Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
> That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
> tonne BS.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
> Ryan Heibloem
> Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.




--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- "Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:mq6533pkniab1b6j5d2d0pusd8o0e87f2t@4ax.com...
> Good day,
>
> As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
> I too want the best for them by every means.
> I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
> millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
> If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
> automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
> Is it done to just piss people like you off?
> No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
> plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.
>
> We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
> matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
> Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
> they can't/don't have any performance...
> Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
> Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
> That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
> tonne BS.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
> Ryan Heibloem
> Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.




--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- "Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:mq6533pkniab1b6j5d2d0pusd8o0e87f2t@4ax.com...
> Good day,
>
> As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
> I too want the best for them by every means.
> I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
> millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
> If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
> automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
> Is it done to just piss people like you off?
> No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
> plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.
>
> We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
> matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
> Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
> they can't/don't have any performance...
> Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
> Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
> That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
> tonne BS.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
> Ryan Heibloem
> Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.




--
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- "Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:mq6533pkniab1b6j5d2d0pusd8o0e87f2t@4ax.com...
> Good day,
>
> As a matter of fact, I am raising two daughters!
> I too want the best for them by every means.
> I therefore will give them a vehicle that is designed in this
> millennium, using tomorrows technology today.
> If ancient American cars are so safe, why is it that no U.S.
> automobile manufacturer doesn't build 'em like they used too?
> Is it done to just piss people like you off?
> No, it is done because new cars are safer, more efficient, and just
> plain old far superior than yesteryears vehicles.
>
> We can discuss this until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the
> matter is that new automotive technology is superior.
> Look at diesel powered cars. Most North American's still think that
> they can't/don't have any performance...
> Then you have Audi and their R10 in the 24 heures du Mans.(The 24
> Hours of Le Mans) A diesel ! And Audi kicked every bodies ass.
> That was today's (German) technology. Not antiquated has been three
> tonne BS.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
> Ryan Heibloem
> Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.




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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Nice push bar Bill!

Cheers

Ryan

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:54:50 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
>wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
>seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
>Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
>Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
>truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
>over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Nice push bar Bill!

Cheers

Ryan

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:54:50 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
>wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
>seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
>Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
>Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
>truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
>over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Nice push bar Bill!

Cheers

Ryan

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:54:50 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
>wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
>seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
>Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
>Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
>truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
>over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Nice push bar Bill!

Cheers

Ryan

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:54:50 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> They would build REAL cars, if the Environmental Protection Agency,
>wouldn't strangle the Big Three. Except for the a few that may transport
>seven members of a family in their full sized station wagons such as the
>Aviator, Escalade, Suburban, Yukon, Tahoe, Jimmy, Blazer, Explorer,
>Expedition, Excursion. Notice even the nicer Toys are sneaking in a half ton
>truck. I'll pray for your daughters, that they don't lose control and cross
>over to meet: http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com...
>
> Nice push bar Bill!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com...
>
> Nice push bar Bill!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com...
>
> Nice push bar Bill!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com...
>
> Nice push bar Bill!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!

Cheers

Ry'




On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:10:51 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
>http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Nice push bar Bill!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!

Cheers

Ry'




On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:10:51 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
>http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Nice push bar Bill!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!

Cheers

Ry'




On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:10:51 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
>http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Nice push bar Bill!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!

Cheers

Ry'




On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:10:51 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Brush bar was a part of the '78 Bronco package, bought new by me:
>http://www.projectbronco.com/Literat...ies/page16.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:ksb533p7gpromvjm96918hi0ksugrescr5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Nice push bar Bill!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ryan

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:9vg533td3535a4m19h8m02mnm8cv0115cu@4ax.com...
> My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
> Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
> 16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
> then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
> Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ry'



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:9vg533td3535a4m19h8m02mnm8cv0115cu@4ax.com...
> My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
> Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
> 16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
> then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
> Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ry'



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:9vg533td3535a4m19h8m02mnm8cv0115cu@4ax.com...
> My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
> Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
> 16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
> then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
> Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ry'



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Socks" <socks09@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:9vg533td3535a4m19h8m02mnm8cv0115cu@4ax.com...
> My father has a 1975 E350 with a 460 in her.
> Awesome truck. Two of my friends and I took it on a
> 16850 mile journey in 1987, 7 week through western Canada and
> then down into the States. , saw the Gulf of Mexico; Corpus Christy,
> Galveston, New Orleans. Beautiful trip. Wish it was a 4X4!
>
> Cheers
>
> Ry'



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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good morning,

The U.S. is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and the
people I believe are the most hospitable I have ever met!
Now, those bus you are talking about... Driving into a K.O.A. at
night(I'm not quite sure as to where anymore though)
and hearing all these popping sounds and then a whole ---- storm of
the largest strangest insects flying towards the head and driving
lights!
I'll never forget my one friend nearly ---- himself as one of those
hugh beetles landed on his head! And at the same time a rather juicy
and plump tarantula ran across his foot! I never laughed so hard in my
life! I bent over and picked up the spider and pushed it towards his
face, he just freaked and hid in the van for the rest of the night!
Wuss. One of the local folks there at the camp ground referred to the
big beetles as "June bugs" Pretty cool though!
As far as A/C?
No such luxury for us, Plenty of beer on the other hand.
My wife and I are planning on creating a similar journey with our my
two daughters(Cooper 13 & Alex 12) from my first marriage in our
Liberty.
One of those new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4 doors would be nice
for a 6 week adventure.
We want to only use secondary roads as much as possible. Stay off
Interstates. Too busy and too fast. You don't really get to see
anything or meet anybody along the way.

Cheers

Ry'


On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:30:29 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
>Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
>people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good morning,

The U.S. is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and the
people I believe are the most hospitable I have ever met!
Now, those bus you are talking about... Driving into a K.O.A. at
night(I'm not quite sure as to where anymore though)
and hearing all these popping sounds and then a whole ---- storm of
the largest strangest insects flying towards the head and driving
lights!
I'll never forget my one friend nearly ---- himself as one of those
hugh beetles landed on his head! And at the same time a rather juicy
and plump tarantula ran across his foot! I never laughed so hard in my
life! I bent over and picked up the spider and pushed it towards his
face, he just freaked and hid in the van for the rest of the night!
Wuss. One of the local folks there at the camp ground referred to the
big beetles as "June bugs" Pretty cool though!
As far as A/C?
No such luxury for us, Plenty of beer on the other hand.
My wife and I are planning on creating a similar journey with our my
two daughters(Cooper 13 & Alex 12) from my first marriage in our
Liberty.
One of those new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4 doors would be nice
for a 6 week adventure.
We want to only use secondary roads as much as possible. Stay off
Interstates. Too busy and too fast. You don't really get to see
anything or meet anybody along the way.

Cheers

Ry'


On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:30:29 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
>Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
>people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good morning,

The U.S. is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and the
people I believe are the most hospitable I have ever met!
Now, those bus you are talking about... Driving into a K.O.A. at
night(I'm not quite sure as to where anymore though)
and hearing all these popping sounds and then a whole ---- storm of
the largest strangest insects flying towards the head and driving
lights!
I'll never forget my one friend nearly ---- himself as one of those
hugh beetles landed on his head! And at the same time a rather juicy
and plump tarantula ran across his foot! I never laughed so hard in my
life! I bent over and picked up the spider and pushed it towards his
face, he just freaked and hid in the van for the rest of the night!
Wuss. One of the local folks there at the camp ground referred to the
big beetles as "June bugs" Pretty cool though!
As far as A/C?
No such luxury for us, Plenty of beer on the other hand.
My wife and I are planning on creating a similar journey with our my
two daughters(Cooper 13 & Alex 12) from my first marriage in our
Liberty.
One of those new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4 doors would be nice
for a 6 week adventure.
We want to only use secondary roads as much as possible. Stay off
Interstates. Too busy and too fast. You don't really get to see
anything or meet anybody along the way.

Cheers

Ry'


On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:30:29 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
>Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
>people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

Good morning,

The U.S. is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and the
people I believe are the most hospitable I have ever met!
Now, those bus you are talking about... Driving into a K.O.A. at
night(I'm not quite sure as to where anymore though)
and hearing all these popping sounds and then a whole ---- storm of
the largest strangest insects flying towards the head and driving
lights!
I'll never forget my one friend nearly ---- himself as one of those
hugh beetles landed on his head! And at the same time a rather juicy
and plump tarantula ran across his foot! I never laughed so hard in my
life! I bent over and picked up the spider and pushed it towards his
face, he just freaked and hid in the van for the rest of the night!
Wuss. One of the local folks there at the camp ground referred to the
big beetles as "June bugs" Pretty cool though!
As far as A/C?
No such luxury for us, Plenty of beer on the other hand.
My wife and I are planning on creating a similar journey with our my
two daughters(Cooper 13 & Alex 12) from my first marriage in our
Liberty.
One of those new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4 doors would be nice
for a 6 week adventure.
We want to only use secondary roads as much as possible. Stay off
Interstates. Too busy and too fast. You don't really get to see
anything or meet anybody along the way.

Cheers

Ry'


On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:30:29 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> I lived in Texas City for a year in the mid eighties, that's near
>Galveston, sounds like you tried to drive on the beaches there. Great
>people, huge bugs, dirty water, and air-conditioning was a must.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I say, if the girl wants a Wrangler, get her one.
Then you can have a ton of amazing "Father - Daughter moments" while
teaching her how to drive it. You can take her trail riding and teach her
all she needs to know for when the bad weather gets here.
C'mon Nate.... don't be such a stick in the mud :)

If she's a responsible young lady, you should have no problems with her and
the rig.
As far as the Liberty, I'd say no, a Cherokee would be a better choice.
After having driven both, I would choose the Cherokee myself over the Libby
for umpteen different reasons.

Now.. a Fox Mustang...
Nawwwww... the girl wants a Jeep... LIKE HER DAD....

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I say, if the girl wants a Wrangler, get her one.
Then you can have a ton of amazing "Father - Daughter moments" while
teaching her how to drive it. You can take her trail riding and teach her
all she needs to know for when the bad weather gets here.
C'mon Nate.... don't be such a stick in the mud :)

If she's a responsible young lady, you should have no problems with her and
the rig.
As far as the Liberty, I'd say no, a Cherokee would be a better choice.
After having driven both, I would choose the Cherokee myself over the Libby
for umpteen different reasons.

Now.. a Fox Mustang...
Nawwwww... the girl wants a Jeep... LIKE HER DAD....

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I say, if the girl wants a Wrangler, get her one.
Then you can have a ton of amazing "Father - Daughter moments" while
teaching her how to drive it. You can take her trail riding and teach her
all she needs to know for when the bad weather gets here.
C'mon Nate.... don't be such a stick in the mud :)

If she's a responsible young lady, you should have no problems with her and
the rig.
As far as the Liberty, I'd say no, a Cherokee would be a better choice.
After having driven both, I would choose the Cherokee myself over the Libby
for umpteen different reasons.

Now.. a Fox Mustang...
Nawwwww... the girl wants a Jeep... LIKE HER DAD....

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com

Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
 

I say, if the girl wants a Wrangler, get her one.
Then you can have a ton of amazing "Father - Daughter moments" while
teaching her how to drive it. You can take her trail riding and teach her
all she needs to know for when the bad weather gets here.
C'mon Nate.... don't be such a stick in the mud :)

If she's a responsible young lady, you should have no problems with her and
the rig.
As far as the Liberty, I'd say no, a Cherokee would be a better choice.
After having driven both, I would choose the Cherokee myself over the Libby
for umpteen different reasons.

Now.. a Fox Mustang...
Nawwwww... the girl wants a Jeep... LIKE HER DAD....

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.

--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com