preparing for new driver - liberty?
04-26-2007, 03:14 PM
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preparing for new driver - liberty?
my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.
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drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
appreciated.
--
Nathan in Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
04-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
You know Nate, you could teach her to NOT mash the pedals so hard.
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
04-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
You know Nate, you could teach her to NOT mash the pedals so hard.
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
04-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
You know Nate, you could teach her to NOT mash the pedals so hard.
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
04-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
You know Nate, you could teach her to NOT mash the pedals so hard.
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
I don't know that a Libby is appreciably longer, lower, or wider than a TJ.
It seems to me that the main difference is the permanant roof and windows.
Having said that, you've been around here long enough to know all of that
....
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
04-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
Nathan In Montana wrote:
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
Nathan In Montana wrote:
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
Nathan In Montana wrote:
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
Nathan In Montana wrote:
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered them
> 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
I started my son off in my CJ7 about that age.... off road in the winter
on ice. He learned fast how fast they swap ends in places where it was
'safe' to do so and has turned out to be a good driver, now at 23.
When I see the Liberty and Wrangler side by side, my impression is the
Liberty is the top heavy one?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-26-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: preparing for new driver - liberty?
I'd recommend finding a nice late model Cherokee.
I got my license at 14 in Arkansas, but I had an adult companion restriction
until I turned 16.
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
I got my license at 14 in Arkansas, but I had an adult companion restriction
until I turned 16.
"Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7d-dneYpfM5hZK3bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> my 14 year old is preparing to get her drivers permit (montana licenses
> drivers at 15) and her first choice is a wrangler. due to the short
> wheelbase and icy roads i dont think this would be a smart choice for her.
> her second choice is a liberty. i havent driven one since jeep lowered
> them 2" in '02/'03(?) and im not sure how forgiving they are. feedback
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Talk.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
