Power steering 89yj 4.2
01-30-2006, 04:00 PM
#21
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
problem with the power steering in either one.
If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method, then
I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill the
reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is something
to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level check
can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for a
year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> Is it broken?
>
> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> old seals....
>
> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Scott Smith wrote:
> >
> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
(so
> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
putting
> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan sound
> > like a good idea?
fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
problem with the power steering in either one.
If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method, then
I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill the
reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is something
to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level check
can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for a
year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> Is it broken?
>
> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> old seals....
>
> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Scott Smith wrote:
> >
> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
(so
> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
putting
> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan sound
> > like a good idea?
01-30-2006, 04:00 PM
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
problem with the power steering in either one.
If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method, then
I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill the
reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is something
to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level check
can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for a
year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> Is it broken?
>
> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> old seals....
>
> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Scott Smith wrote:
> >
> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
(so
> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
putting
> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan sound
> > like a good idea?
fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
problem with the power steering in either one.
If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method, then
I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill the
reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is something
to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level check
can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for a
year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> Is it broken?
>
> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> old seals....
>
> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Scott Smith wrote:
> >
> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
(so
> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
putting
> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan sound
> > like a good idea?
01-30-2006, 08:03 PM
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
01-30-2006, 08:03 PM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
01-30-2006, 08:03 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have effectively
flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives sound
advise that can be adapted.
CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use automatic
transmission fluid and do not overfill.
Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
(1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
settle for at least two minutes.
(2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
(3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid level
remains constant after running the engine.
(4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
(5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
wheel stops at least 20 times.
(6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
(7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
from lock to lock.
(8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period. This
may cause pump damage.
(9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy would
> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> problem with the power steering in either one.
>
> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> then
> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> the
> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>
> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in this
> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> something
> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> check
> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> a
> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>> Is it broken?
>>
>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>> old seals....
>>
>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Scott Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> (so
>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> putting
>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>> > sound
>> > like a good idea?
>
>
01-31-2006, 08:31 PM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
01-31-2006, 08:31 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
01-31-2006, 08:31 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
>
> The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> sound advise that can be adapted.
>
> CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
>
> Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
>
> (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> settle for at least two minutes.
>
> (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
>
> (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> level remains constant after running the engine.
>
> (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
>
> (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> wheel stops at least 20 times.
>
> (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
>
> (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> from lock to lock.
>
> (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
>
> CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> This may cause pump damage.
>
> (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
>>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
>> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
>> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
>> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
>> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
>> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
>> would
>> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
>> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
>> problem with the power steering in either one.
>>
>> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
>> then
>> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
>> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
>> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
>> the
>> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
>>
>> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
>> this
>> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
>> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
>> something
>> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
>> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
>> check
>> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
>> a
>> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
>>> Is it broken?
>>>
>>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
>>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
>>> old seals....
>>>
>>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
>>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
>>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Scott Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
>>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
>> (so
>>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
>> putting
>>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
>>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
>>> > sound
>>> > like a good idea?
>>
>>
>
>
02-01-2006, 09:29 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
Those directions are for a 'new' pump. The new pumps use different
fluid than the old 4.2L setups.
I recommend you check what is in there. If it is red, 'don't' switch to
that expensive Chrysler junk or you will likely blow every seal in the
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Scott Smith wrote:
>
> that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> > If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> > fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> > effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
> >
> > The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> > sound advise that can be adapted.
> >
> > CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> > automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
> >
> > Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> > indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
> >
> > (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> > settle for at least two minutes.
> >
> > (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
> >
> > (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> > level remains constant after running the engine.
> >
> > (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
> >
> > (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> > wheel stops at least 20 times.
> >
> > (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
> >
> > (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> > from lock to lock.
> >
> > (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
> >
> > CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> > This may cause pump damage.
> >
> > (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> > stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> >>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> >> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> >> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> >> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> >> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> >> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
> >> would
> >> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> >> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> >> problem with the power steering in either one.
> >>
> >> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> >> then
> >> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> >> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> >> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> >> the
> >> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
> >>
> >> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
> >> this
> >> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> >> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> >> something
> >> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> >> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> >> check
> >> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> >> a
> >> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> >>> Is it broken?
> >>>
> >>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> >>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> >>> old seals....
> >>>
> >>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> >>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> >>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Scott Smith wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> >>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> >> (so
> >>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> >> putting
> >>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> >>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
> >>> > sound
> >>> > like a good idea?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
fluid than the old 4.2L setups.
I recommend you check what is in there. If it is red, 'don't' switch to
that expensive Chrysler junk or you will likely blow every seal in the
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Scott Smith wrote:
>
> that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> > If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> > fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> > effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
> >
> > The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> > sound advise that can be adapted.
> >
> > CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> > automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
> >
> > Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> > indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
> >
> > (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> > settle for at least two minutes.
> >
> > (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
> >
> > (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> > level remains constant after running the engine.
> >
> > (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
> >
> > (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> > wheel stops at least 20 times.
> >
> > (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
> >
> > (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> > from lock to lock.
> >
> > (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
> >
> > CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> > This may cause pump damage.
> >
> > (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> > stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> >>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> >> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> >> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> >> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> >> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> >> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
> >> would
> >> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> >> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> >> problem with the power steering in either one.
> >>
> >> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> >> then
> >> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> >> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> >> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> >> the
> >> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
> >>
> >> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
> >> this
> >> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> >> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> >> something
> >> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> >> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> >> check
> >> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> >> a
> >> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> >>> Is it broken?
> >>>
> >>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> >>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> >>> old seals....
> >>>
> >>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> >>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> >>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Scott Smith wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> >>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> >> (so
> >>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> >> putting
> >>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> >>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
> >>> > sound
> >>> > like a good idea?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
02-01-2006, 09:29 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Power steering 89yj 4.2
Those directions are for a 'new' pump. The new pumps use different
fluid than the old 4.2L setups.
I recommend you check what is in there. If it is red, 'don't' switch to
that expensive Chrysler junk or you will likely blow every seal in the
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Scott Smith wrote:
>
> that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> > If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> > fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> > effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
> >
> > The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> > sound advise that can be adapted.
> >
> > CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> > automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
> >
> > Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> > indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
> >
> > (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> > settle for at least two minutes.
> >
> > (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
> >
> > (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> > level remains constant after running the engine.
> >
> > (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
> >
> > (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> > wheel stops at least 20 times.
> >
> > (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
> >
> > (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> > from lock to lock.
> >
> > (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
> >
> > CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> > This may cause pump damage.
> >
> > (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> > stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> >>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> >> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> >> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> >> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> >> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> >> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
> >> would
> >> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> >> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> >> problem with the power steering in either one.
> >>
> >> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> >> then
> >> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> >> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> >> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> >> the
> >> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
> >>
> >> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
> >> this
> >> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> >> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> >> something
> >> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> >> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> >> check
> >> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> >> a
> >> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> >>> Is it broken?
> >>>
> >>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> >>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> >>> old seals....
> >>>
> >>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> >>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> >>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Scott Smith wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> >>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> >> (so
> >>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> >> putting
> >>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> >>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
> >>> > sound
> >>> > like a good idea?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
fluid than the old 4.2L setups.
I recommend you check what is in there. If it is red, 'don't' switch to
that expensive Chrysler junk or you will likely blow every seal in the
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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Scott Smith wrote:
>
> that's what I was looking for Billy ray thanks
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:22a7e$43deb85d$4831b233$10091@FUSE.NET...
> > If you were to siphon the reservoir and refill with new power steering
> > fluid, operate briefly, and repeat several times you would have
> > effectively flushed the system of its old and dirty fluid.
> >
> > The procedure below is for the initial setup for a new pump but gives
> > sound advise that can be adapted.
> >
> > CAUTION: Use MOPAR Power Steering Fluid or equivalent. Do not use
> > automatic transmission fluid and do not overfill.
> >
> > Wipe filler cap clean, then check the fluid level. The dipstick should
> > indicate COLD when the fluid is at normal ambient temperature.
> >
> > (1) Fill the pump fluid reservoir to the proper level and let the fluid
> > settle for at least two minutes.
> >
> > (2) Start the engine and let run for a few seconds then turn engine off.
> >
> > (3) Add fluid if necessary. Repeat the above procedure until the fluid
> > level remains constant after running the engine.
> >
> > (4) Raise the front wheels off the ground.
> >
> > (5) Slowly turn the steering wheel right and left, lightly contacting the
> > wheel stops at least 20 times.
> >
> > (6) Check the fluid level add if necessary.
> >
> > (7) Lower the vehicle, start the engine and turn the steering wheel slowly
> > from lock to lock.
> >
> > (8) Stop the engine and check the fluid level and refill as required.
> >
> > CAUTION: Do not run a vehicle with foamy fluid for an extended period.
> > This may cause pump damage.
> >
> > (9) If the fluid is extremely foamy or milky looking, allow the vehicle to
> > stand a few minutes and repeat the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43de8221$0$3564$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> >>I was told by a used car dealer in Redmond, WA that dirty power steering
> >> fluid can really be a problem in rack and pinion design front drive cars.
> >> He had some method of diverting the return line into a drain container,
> >> running the engine, and refilling the reservoir until what came out was
> >> clean. He swore by it. He sold a lot of cars too, mostly older, 100,000
> >> mi. plus vehicles where this would be a problem. I figured this guy
> >> would
> >> know, how many power steering boxes he had replaced, before and after
> >> adopting this policy. I bought a couple cars from him, and never had a
> >> problem with the power steering in either one.
> >>
> >> If you're going to do this, and you can figure out a reasonable method,
> >> then
> >> I agree that mixing fluids is a bad idea. Just use whatever the standard
> >> power steering fluid is, and don't try to drain it all out at once. The
> >> fluid is cheap. You can drain the return line, for example, and refill
> >> the
> >> reservoir repeatedly, without introducing air into the system.
> >>
> >> There seem to be a lot of new Jeep owners, with recycled vehicles, in
> >> this
> >> news group now. They want to do something to the vehicle, anything, that
> >> will prolong its life, make it perform better, whatever. There is
> >> something
> >> to the philosophy, that says that fixing things that are not broken, is a
> >> waste of time. Otoh, looking at dirty fluid every time you do a level
> >> check
> >> can be irritating. (But I lived with jet black motor oil in my Chevy for
> >> a
> >> year, until I got around to replacing the engine.)
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43DCDEBA.4CEFFE28@sympatico.ca...
> >>> Is it broken?
> >>>
> >>> I really wouldn't mess with an old one unless it was broke. Pumping air
> >>> bubbles around with high pressure surges of fluid can do bad things to
> >>> old seals....
> >>>
> >>> That said, the 4.2 calls for Dexron ATF in the power steering. It
> >>> should say so on the filler cap. If not, then don't mix the two fluids
> >>> or you will destroy all the seals for sure.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Scott Smith wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I would like to do a flush and fill of the power steering system.
> >>> > I was thinking of draining the old, then using ATF fluid to do a flush
> >> (so
> >>> > fill it and then drive around the farm for 1/2 hr) then draining and
> >> putting
> >>> > in the right powersteering fluid in.
> >>> > Question: What is the right power steering fluid? And does my plan
> >>> > sound
> >>> > like a good idea?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >